ok, the usual disclaimer, i am NOT planning to shoot a first shot at a turkey past 40 yards.
what do you consider to be the effective range of hevi-7's?
thanks!
Way farther than we can discuss on here...
At 40 yards, +/- a little misjudge, they are deadly in both pattern and penetration.
Quote from: BrowningGuy88 on March 15, 2018, 02:05:08 PM
Way farther than we can discuss on here...
yep. I can assure you from personal experience far farther than we can discuss on here and with authority
it is the heavy-13 #7
i have NO desire to put a first shot on a bird past 40. but for the sake of argument, how far would folks consider to be the max effective first-shot range of hevi-13 #7's?
this is all new to me and i am curious. plus i want to know in case i misjudge the range.
It will kill one far enough out that if you say you accidentally misjudged the range, you are lying! :happy0064:
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I messed up on one and thought he was about 41-42. He was 48 yards. Stone dead with the old Hevi 6. But I still knew he was further than 40 and should not have shot.
Effective Range of Hevi-13 7's = what your gun, choke and load tells you on the pattern board period.
Drake, we are talking about Hevi-13 7's
H13 #7's are killers for farther than we are allowed to talk about here, they're hammers
The best thing a turkey hunter can ever learn is judgment of distance, a range finder would be helpful to start with. But once a guy get to were he can judge yardage pretty close he'll be better off. With all that said, a few years ago I was patterning some hevi-13 6's in 20ga at 40yrds, and they went completely through a sheet of plywood! Most lead shot just buries up in it. I'd venture to say that at 50yds they would still be stroking!
Quote from: Drakehammer on March 15, 2018, 02:50:00 PM
Quote from: Marc_Stokeld on March 15, 2018, 01:51:08 PM
ok, the usual disclaimer, i am NOT planning to shoot a first shot at a turkey past 40 yards.
what do you consider to be the effective range of hevi-7's?
thanks!
Kind of ambiguous question. Need to clarify.
Hevi-13 #7s (12g/cc)?, Federal Heavyweight #7s (15g/cc)? TSS #7s (18g/cc)? Velocity? Pattern density?
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He put Hevi 7s in the title
EM hs 1080 fps #7 pattern well, they DON'T penitrate well....
In a poltically correct way of saying it ....there is hardly any "fudge factor " past 40..... if that -that's not a invatation to everyome to post up another eyesore "longest shot thread " just trying to steer you away from a sad hunting experience that some other folks had
If you have a choice between that particular offering and mag blends ....go with mag blends
The few I Shot with Hevi shot #7 factory loaded 3.5in, they flopped like crazy. I don't think they go fast enough. They do kill, my buddy watched me fold one up with #7s he went home immediately and got on the hevi shot train. His first experience with was super impressed. I've been shooting Nitro stuff a while and the 1200fps hits way harder then the striaght hevi loaded stuff. #7 can and will easily do 40yds I just didn't think the birds acted hammered with it. In my 12ga now I have a 6x7 duplex of hevishot that crushes compared to the straight #7s.
The whole way further than we are allowed to talk about here kills me...sounds like im at grandmas house no cursing boys. :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Quote from: KentuckyLB on March 20, 2018, 09:24:51 AM
The whole way further than we are allowed to talk about here kills me...sounds like im at grandmas house no cursing boys. :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Seems simple. Don't walk into another mans house and break his rules.
I've had great results at 40yds with HEVI #7s and would say that with the right choke/shotgun combo their range is effective well past that. By saying that I don't encourage anyone nor do I take shots at birds past 40yds if I can help it. But I would feel comfortable saying you do have a buffer in case you misjudge it. Like someone else said if you aren't sure about the #7s then go with the MagBlend.
Have I missed something with the Hevi 7's. I have used them exclusively for the last 8 or 9 years and have killed numerous birds with them. One at a lasered 38 yards that was stone dead as soon as I pulled the trigger. Every bird I killed with 7's, except one, have been stone dead. What am I missing here?
You're not missing a thing. I've had the same experiences as you, as well as several buddy's I hunt with. Some people love them, and have had nothing but success with them. For others, they've had different experiences, or heard they're ineffective, and feel the opposite way about them. I've only experienced great patterns, and very dead birds, every time I've pulled the trigger. If it ain't broke...
Quote from: bbcoach on March 20, 2018, 03:46:51 PM
Have I missed something with the Hevi 7's. I have used them exclusively for the last 8 or 9 years and have killed numerous birds with them. One at a lasered 38 yards that was stone dead as soon as I pulled the trigger. Every bird I killed with 7's, except one, have been stone dead. What am I missing here?
Sounds like you have missed nothing. Literally! :funnyturkey:
Just checking. I saw a couple of posts with negative comments so it got me to thinking. Every time I've pulled the trigger, it's been DIRTNAP period!!!!! They have NEVER let me down.
I had a low flyer on a 35 yard shot from a 3/2/7 completely penetrate the breast of a bird and end up just under the skin on the other side. They penetrate just fine. Also, the amount of flop isn't a good indicator of shell effectiveness.
In normal ranges 45 yards and in they are effective, I've killed a pile with them. They are too slow in my opinion from Environ Metal, the Nitro load and my handloaded shells are another animal all together, at 1200 fps they are extremely deadly to farther than should be shot.
I have had mixed results with the 7's, although they pattern very nicely on paper. But I get great patterns and results as well with hevi 6's at 40 yards so I don't see the need for the 7's.
I agree with others however and wish they were a bit faster.
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 20, 2018, 10:12:05 PM
I had a low flyer on a 35 yard shot from a 3/2/7 completely penetrate the breast of a bird and end up just under the skin on the other side. They penetrate just fine. Also, the amount of flop isn't a good indicator of shell effectiveness.
I'm glad to see someone besides myself recognizes that the "flop factor" doesn't say a lot!!! My experience with 3.5/2.25/7 is an AWESOME pattern @ 40 =336 in the 10"....however,when I pulled the paper off the board there were pellets falling off from in between the paper & the board,and I KNOW they were from that load because it was a brand new piece of board!!! I also shot lead #5s and they penetrated further into the board than did the hevi-7s. As many have commented on here,I believe they are goin too slow (1090) as compared to the Magblend @ 1200fps. I believe the ONLY way to decide is to try them out!!