Looking to get a feeder hen to add to my spread. I have Avian-x jake and breeder. I mostly run and gun and cover a few miles when i hunt, so never carry more than 2. Avian-x seemed like the logical choice, but the newer flextone, for about half the price seem to have great paintings on them. Any input or experience you could share would be appreciated. Thanks!
Or, would a DSD be worth the extra money?
I cannot say enough about my DSD's, there is not a better decoy made. To me well worth their price. I have 6 of them from the Strutter, Jake, Upright, Feeding, Leading and Submissive. All have a place in my sets given the "right" time and place. As always Just a Tool in the Shed.
I have entire thread dedicated to DSD's, I'LL add the link below.
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,70971.0.html
MK M GOBL
Quote from: MK M GOBL on March 11, 2018, 10:30:31 AM
I cannot say enough about my DSD's, there is not a better decoy made. To me well worth their price. I have 6 of them from the Strutter, Jake, Upright, Feeding, Leading and Submissive. All have a place in my sets given the "right" time and place. As always Just a Tool in the Shed.
I have entire thread dedicated to DSD's, I'LL add the link below.
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,70971.0.html
Will second this, I have the entire flock, but use only the upright hen 95% of time. Spend the extra go with the best. What hobby doesn't cost money, and if you don't shoot it to many times it will be there for years to pass on to your kids.
MK M GOBL
Still haven't figure out why my post got added to the past Quote
Quote from: ddturkeyhunter on March 11, 2018, 10:57:25 AM
Still haven't figure out why my post got added to the past Quote
You have to type your reply outside of the quote or it will be included in the quote.
As for original question, hands down go with the DSD's you will never look at another decoy!!!
No doubt DSD are the best decoys ... But for the carrying ability and moving more i like the Axian x ... but it's just up to you and how much money you want to spend.. all of these will get the job done.. Been many turkeys killed over the old primos feather flex decoys ...i still have my first old primos feather flex decoys...lol
DSD are without question the best. If I'm running and gunning, though, I, personally, wouldn't use them. Avians are much more portable, and still look pretty stinkin good.
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Just to ask the question, and I hear this quite often about portability. I have several buddies who bought Avians and always said they can collapse them for portability, thing was they never did... They blew them up and left them that way... Seems to be a feature of the decoy that is seldom used and a disadvantage as you need to have them hold air to look right. My buddy spent hours fixing his back up after a number of stray pellet hits (one bad direct hit from a Learn to Hunt put her out of commission and was replaced with a DSD) and the valve leaking which also seems to be an inherint problem... Just asking those who use the Avians do you inflate/deflate your decoy(s) at every set or move? I also wonder about speed in which you can inflate and set them (I often set 3). Last is weight, the Avians seem heavier but I have not weighed them... I am wondering what is the advantage of them? (Other than cost)
MK M GOBL
I have a Dakota jake, DSD upright hen, DSD jake, and avian x hens. DSD hands down. Avian X may seem more portable but they are a pain in the to blow up so I live them inflated. Got them dirt cheap so I don't regret them but they are no DSD.
Quote from: MK M GOBL on March 11, 2018, 02:03:03 PM
Just to ask the question, and I hear this quite often about portability. I have several buddies who bought Avians and always said they can collapse them for portability, thing was they never did... They blew them up and left them that way... Seems to be a feature of the decoy that is seldom used and a disadvantage as you need to have them hold air to look right. My buddy spent hours fixing his back up after a number of stray pellet hits (one bad direct hit from a Learn to Hunt put her out of commission and was replaced with a DSD) and the valve leaking which also seems to be an inherint problem... Just asking those who use the Avains do you inflate/deflate your decoy(s) at every set or move? I also wonder about speed in which you can inflate and set them (I often set 3). Last is weight, the Avians seem heavier but I have not weighed them... I am wondering what is the advantage of them? (Other than cost)
MK M GOBL
If i'm just carrying one or 2 i just leave mine full of air in my bag. I don't think inflating them is much different than those cheaper ones that you fold in your vest and have to take the time to get them back in some kind of shape to use or hunting again....Again i feel DSD are the best, it just depends on the person and his pocket book.....You know some people kill birds off the funky chicken... lol
I have the entire avian x flock and they all have problems.the rear clamp on the strutter just fell off and the rest have leaks .just got a DSD jake and will soon have nothing but DSD decoy .dsd are night and day better
Dsd #1
Deception #2 (their strutter IMO is equal to dsd)
Dakota #3
Go over to FB and look at all the dissatisfied customers of Avian decoys..mis-shaped heads, leaking decoys.
DSD all the way.
I'm thinking I'd buy the Flextone and a few $1 jars of paint from Michael's and have at it.................
Anyone had paint issues with their Avains? I'm not completely satisfied with my DSDs because the paint hasn't held up well over time. They are 8 years old though but haven't seen much action the last 3 years. If I was buying right now I don't know what I would buy but probably DSDs. DSDs are the best looking IMO. Deception Decoys would be my second pick. I'm fully concinced that to a turkey the brand makes no difference. I didn't see an increase in the decoys productivity by switching from Primos to DSD.
DSD for sure. I have never heard of SSD's having paint issues. What kind of issues you having.
Quote from: Gobble! on March 11, 2018, 08:00:45 PM
Anyone had paint issues with their Avains? I'm not completely satisfied with my DSDs because the paint hasn't held up well over time. They are 8 years old though but haven't seen much action the last 3 years. If I was buying right now I don't know what I would buy but probably DSDs. DSDs are the best looking IMO. Deception Decoys would be my second pick. I'm fully concinced that to a turkey the brand makes no difference. I didn't see an increase in the decoys productivity by switching from Primos to DSD.
The only paint issue I had was with my original Upright Hen, think I bought her in 2010 and she has some use under her belt. The paint on her eyes wore off, I figured out this was because I was putting her in the bag head first...the bag was wearing on her eyes. Once I figured this out it was just a matter of learning tail first, I fixed her eyes with a black Sharpie marker and all good. I do "Whiten" up the head on my Strutter but that was not a company paint job, I did this myself back in 2012. I just use Whiteout for those touch ups.
MK M GOBL
I'm aDSD person. The avian decoys look good too
Quote from: wernerjd on March 11, 2018, 08:16:04 PM
DSD for sure. I have never heard of SSD's having paint issues. What kind of issues you having.
Did a double check, these decoys will be 9 and 10 years old this year. Always carried in a decoy bag. Only the feeders head had the paint flake off, rest of it is good shape. Upright has issues all over but until the last few years it did see a lot of action. My jake and strutter are ok. Colors seem dull but it may just be because I'm comparing them to the new ones and I know they changed up the color scheme on the gobbler decoys.
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Quote from: Gobble! on March 11, 2018, 10:42:35 PM
Quote from: wernerjd on March 11, 2018, 08:16:04 PM
DSD for sure. I have never heard of SSD's having paint issues. What kind of issues you having.
Did a double check, these decoys will be 9 and 10 years old this year. Always carried in a decoy bag. Only the feeders head had the paint flake off, rest of it is good shape. Upright has issues all over but until the last few years it did see a lot of action. My jake and strutter are ok. Colors seem dull but it may just be because I'm comparing them to the new ones and I know they changed up the color scheme on the gobbler decoys.
Are these ACE TECH?
I have no wear like that on mine??
MK M GOBL
Wow! Thank you all for the feedback. I never deflate them in the field, so that isn't really and issue. Seems DSD is an overwhelming winner! Thanks!
Quote from: MK M GOBL on March 11, 2018, 10:57:43 PM
Are these ACE TECH?
I have no wear like that on mine??
MK M GOBL
Yes.
I have the DSD jake and breeder hen. I wanted to add another feeder hen and cheaped out and bought a Avian. It didn't last a season before it started going flat. And it didn't get shot. Buy DSD and get it over with. They will last you a long time.
Well i'm tired of DSD decoys , i'm just going to buy me couple of those stuff turkey taxidermy mounts off the ebay.
I bought the new flextones last year they have the same great painting on them like the avian x for half the price. Plus I love how flextone Has the stakes located on them it's a fast easier way to keep up with them. I tagged out the first two days here in ky using them, I think there a great decoy for half the price of the others.
I have noticed a trend here and that is if the person wants to buy DSD's but doesn't want to shell out the $$ for them, they end up buying a cheaper option, then something goes wrong with the cheaper option or they just are not satisfied with the cheaper option then they eventually buy the DSD's anyways, save yourself the aggravation and in the end extra costs and go buy yourself the DSD's to begin with!! I don't know of anyone who once they owned them wanted to sell them for something else...................just doesn't happen with DSD's!
The paint issues "Gobble" is having is the first I have heard of anyone having paint issues since they have gone to the "ace" material. Might try giving them a call and see what they will do as another thing with DSD's is they stand behind their products!! Might be asking a bit much being they are that old but ya never know!
I really like the decoy stake of the Flextone. To me that was the deal maker!
Quote from: CDNduckslayer on March 12, 2018, 12:21:04 PM
I have noticed a trend here and that is if the person wants to buy DSD's but doesn't want to shell out the $$ for them, they end up buying a cheaper option, then something goes wrong with the cheaper option or they just are not satisfied with the cheaper option then they eventually buy the DSD's anyways, save yourself the aggravation and in the end extra costs and go buy yourself the DSD's to begin with!! I don't know of anyone who once they owned them wanted to sell them for something else...................just doesn't happen with DSD's!
The paint issues "Gobble" is having is the first I have heard of anyone having paint issues since they have gone to the "ace" material. Might try giving them a call and see what they will do as another thing with DSD's is they stand behind their products!! Might be asking a bit much being they are that old but ya never know!
Do you know me? 'Cause that is exactly what I did. Went through a few brands, killed some birds. But the DSD hen has had tons more interaction with the hens and the jakes (gobblers don't get a chance, I kill them before they can jump it, since I am not filming my hunts!). I have one older feeder hen that the birds walk right past to get to the DSD, every single time (and I have killed plenty of birds near that decoy).
Quote from: CDNduckslayer on March 12, 2018, 12:21:04 PM
Might try giving them a call and see what they will do as another thing with DSD's is they stand behind their products!! Might be asking a bit much being they are that old but ya never know!
They told me they sell touch up paint for $15 plus shipping. Probably order some after season to help with the depression of season ending.
Quote from: g8rvet on March 12, 2018, 02:03:55 PM
Do you know me? 'Cause that is exactly what I did.
Lol not the first I've heard of and won't be the last......haha
Quote from: Gobble! on March 12, 2018, 02:45:24 PM
They told me they sell touch up paint for $15 plus shipping. Probably order some after season to help with the depression of season ending.
Sounds like a good offseason task to keep the blood flowing!
Lol same thing I did .started out with avian x hens and strutter and a Dakota extreme jake (knock off of a DSD) just bought a DSD jake and can't believe how much better it looks than the other .
Quote from: g8rvet on March 12, 2018, 02:03:55 PM
Quote from: CDNduckslayer on March 12, 2018, 12:21:04 PM
I have noticed a trend here and that is if the person wants to buy DSD's but doesn't want to shell out the $$ for them, they end up buying a cheaper option, then something goes wrong with the cheaper option or they just are not satisfied with the cheaper option then they eventually buy the DSD's anyways, save yourself the aggravation and in the end extra costs and go buy yourself the DSD's to begin with!! I don't know of anyone who once they owned them wanted to sell them for something else...................just doesn't happen with DSD's!
The paint issues "Gobble" is having is the first I have heard of anyone having paint issues since they have gone to the "ace" material. Might try giving them a call and see what they will do as another thing with DSD's is they stand behind their products!! Might be asking a bit much being they are that old but ya never know!
Do you know me? 'Cause that is exactly what I did. Went through a few brands, killed some birds. But the DSD hen has had tons more interaction with the hens and the jakes (gobblers don't get a chance, I kill them before they can jump it, since I am not filming my hunts!). I have one older feeder hen that the birds walk right past to get to the DSD, every single time (and I have killed plenty of birds near that decoy).