I've gotten a few birds, with my dog with me. I'm going to take my dog out this spring.Anybody out there take their dog along?I know it's not the norm, but you can do it.
Never hunted them with a dog in the spring. I've hunted them a couple times in the fall with a dog. It's a blast, but then I always enjoy the company of a good working dog regardless the outcome. They're not legal in the spring season here but may be in other states. Not certain I'd actually want them busting birds up in the spring anyway. It's hard enough to call a bird that's got hens with him. Bust them up and he may not return to that spot for a few days when the hens settle and come back. I could be wrong on that. Also, I'm uncertain of the stress possibly caused to nesting hens. If a hen chooses not to leave the nest and prot ct her eggs, the dog could kill her. I'm not saying it will or has happened but it's not a chance I'd want to take in this case.
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Never hunted them with a dog in the spring. I've hunted them a couple times in the fall with a dog. It's a blast, but then I always enjoy the company of a good working dog regardless the outcome. They're not legal in the spring season here but may be in other states. Not certain I'd actually want them busting birds up in the spring anyway. It's hard enough to call a bird that's got hens with him. Bust them up and he may not return to that spot for a few days when the hens settle and come back. I could be wrong on that. Also, I'm uncertain of the stress possibly caused to nesting hens. If a hen chooses not to leave the nest and prot ct her eggs, the dog could kill her. I'm not saying it will or has happened but it's not a chance I'd want to take in this case.
. I wouldn't allow my dog to attack a bird. I would not take my dog, if I knew there were other hunters around, no way.I just want my dog to expirience turkey hunting, and it isn't illegal in the high plains.Odds of getting a bird, go way down, I imagine, with dog.I did use my dog, to find a bird that I would not have gotten, without my dog. I really hate to leave my dog in the truck, or worse yet, at home.
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Quote from: wvmntnhick on March 30, 2017, 07:12:08 PM
Also, I'm uncertain of the stress possibly caused to nesting hens. If a hen chooses not to leave the nest and prot ct her eggs, the dog could kill her. I'm not saying it will or has happened but it's not a chance I'd want to take in this case.
This.
Also how would you like to be set up on a gobbler and some dog comes running through busting up the flock. Not a good scenario.
Illegal to use a dog in spring in a lot of states too. Dogs in the fall are another story and I am all for them, not in the spring tho. I can keep my dog close, but I see your point. Busting up a flock would be a bad scene. Good point.
When did post on this forum become so controversial and why so negative on questions people ask ? I have be just as guilty as some on giving opinions on it's not legal or your just wrong in the way you hunt. It's interesting what some people ask... so let's give everyone a change in ask questions and stop being so negative. Good post, i have watch some shows with people using dogs...
I wouldn't do it in the spring even if it were legal. Fall sounds fun, though.
This is most likely illegal, if not it should be. Dogs are for fall turkey not spring gobbler.
UT and MT allow dogs in Spring. I don't know of any other states out west that do. It's mainly a Fall type hunt where splitting the flock, sometimes ,is an advantage.
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I have a friend who takes his dog with him... More for company than for any hunting purposes, and he is the first to admit that the dog is a liability... His dog is a duck dog, and does lay relatively still.
He did once wound a bird with a bow, and was able to recover the bird with the dog... Having quail hunted in turkey country, they must leave one heck of a scent trail, cause my dog goes nuts when we come across turkey scent.
As far as dogs hurting turkeys, I would be more concerned about the opposite... My hunting lab is not accustomed to a bird that fights back so arduously.
I have a different stance on taking a dog with you. I have a lab that's lived all over the southeast with me after college and goes to work with me every single day and I want to take her with me in the spring and sit in a blind. Mainly bc I love turkey hunting so much and I for some reason in my mind want to share my passion with her, just like her passion is retrieving. Her tag along not for hunting but for memories. I am expecting my first born in august and can't wait to see how she takes up with him!
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 30, 2017, 09:09:59 PM
When did post on this forum become so controversial and why so negative on questions people ask ? I have be just as guilty as some on giving opinions on it's not legal or your just wrong in the way you hunt. It's interesting what some people ask... so let's give everyone a change in ask questions and stop being so negative. Good post, i have watch some shows with people using dogs...
. Good point- I was thinking about ticks.The ticks, near water, are thick sometimes, and will imbed in dog.Thats a big reason, to stay out of the lowlands with dog. I know this cowboy, who has some birds on his land up in the hills. Not many ticks, so that will be good if I take my bird dog.
This is the first I have ever heard of using a dog for turkey hunting. Would somebody please explain this to me?
Quote from: deerbasshunter3 on March 30, 2017, 09:57:43 PM
This is the first I have ever heard of using a dog for turkey hunting. Would somebody please explain this to me?
From what little i know, i think in the fall they use a dog to bust up the flock...them call one up and kill it .. I think ....
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 30, 2017, 10:08:41 PM
Quote from: deerbasshunter3 on March 30, 2017, 09:57:43 PM
This is the first I have ever heard of using a dog for turkey hunting. Would somebody please explain this to me?
From what little i know, i think in the fall they use a dog to bust up the flock...them call one up and kill it .. I think ....
Can a turkey not be called in during the fall season?
Quote from: deerbasshunter3 on March 30, 2017, 10:21:43 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 30, 2017, 10:08:41 PM
Quote from: deerbasshunter3 on March 30, 2017, 09:57:43 PM
This is the first I have ever heard of using a dog for turkey hunting. Would somebody please explain this to me?
From what little i know, i think in the fall they use a dog to bust up the flock...them call one up and kill it .. I think ....
Can a turkey not be called in during the fall season?
I guess they can..Why you ask...???
What I do, if I take my dog out in the field, is I keep my dog on a leash pretty much most of the time. I don't let my dog chase any birds, or run around. I just want my dog to experience the same things that I like that I like went out turkey hunting. If you do wound a bird comma having a dog is the only way you will recover that bird. That being said, taking a dog is not the way to go for turkey hunting comma if you want to shoot the big gobblers. Also, ticks can get on your dog comma and that can be a major hassle in summation I think it's fun to do once in awhile,
A long long time ago I knew some people who had dogs that would tree turkeys. The turkey would become fixated on the dog barking at the bottom of the tree and they would just walk up and shoot them out. Didn't even wear camo.
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 30, 2017, 09:09:59 PM
When did post on this forum become so controversial and why so negative on questions people ask ? I have be just as guilty as some on giving opinions on it's not legal or your just wrong in the way you hunt. It's interesting what some people ask... so let's give everyone a change in ask questions and stop being so negative. Good post, i have watch some shows with people using dogs...
I WANs t approaching it with a negative attitude. When it comes to using dogs, I'll be one of the largest advocates. I personally wouldn't care if they let people use dogs during the firearms deer season. It would certainly change things in a hurry and get people in a huge uproar but it wouldn't bother me none at all. Having said that, dogs trained to hunt turkeys will catch them on the ground if given the chance. Been there, send that. Doesn't matter if the bird is crippled or healthy, if the chance exists, they'll do it. If your state allows it (WV doesn't and we're pretty liberal about most things so I'm betting most other states don't either) then by all means, do as you wish.
I believe where a lot of things are being misconstrued as negative is the ability to deduct inflection from the written word. We read things that don't go the direction we want and then infer that the poster must be up in arms about a topic. Personally, I don't care how someone wants to hunt nor will I concern myself with it. I don't go about things in ways that many are comfortable with. I'm fine with that also. :TooFunny:
The purpose of hunting with a dog in the spring is for retrieval purposes only. The AWTHDA has pushed to get this legalized in several states, we can spend a lot of time making sure we know our gun, load and choke combo but misjudgments in distance can happen and nothing retrieves a wounded bird better than a dog. It makes sense to me and if you have the time to spend training a dog to retrieve your bird for you then do it if it's legal in your state. In VA it is not legal in the spring.
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You can hunt with a dog in the fall her in Colorado but I don't think you can do that in the spring hear if I remember right. I've done it twice in the fall and I prefer not to hunt with dogs or at least my dog.
Quote from: High plains drifter on March 31, 2017, 12:10:29 AM
What I do, if I take my dog out in the field, is I keep my dog on a leash pretty much most of the time. I don't let my dog chase any birds, or run around. I just want my dog to experience the same things that I like that I like went out turkey hunting. If you do wound a bird comma having a dog is the only way you will recover that bird. That being said, taking a dog is not the way to go for turkey hunting comma if you want to shoot the big gobblers. Also, ticks can get on your dog comma and that can be a major hassle in summation I think it's fun to do once in awhile,
in a case like that, I'd say you're fine but make sure it's legal to have a dog in the woods with you while chasing spring birds. Just don't want you to get nabbed by the game officers for being out of compliance.
Quote from: trkehunr93 on April 01, 2017, 10:38:38 AM
The purpose of hunting with a dog in the spring is for retrieval purposes only. The AWTHDA has pushed to get this legalized in several states, we can spend a lot of time making sure we know our gun, load and choke combo but misjudgments in distance can happen and nothing retrieves a wounded bird better than a dog. It makes sense to me and if you have the time to spend training a dog to retrieve your bird for you then do it if it's legal in your state. In VA it is not legal in the spring.
Any bird dog, will retrieve a turkey. There is no need to train them, they will just do it.
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Quote from: High plains drifter on April 02, 2017, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: trkehunr93 on April 01, 2017, 10:38:38 AM
The purpose of hunting with a dog in the spring is for retrieval purposes only. The AWTHDA has pushed to get this legalized in several states, we can spend a lot of time making sure we know our gun, load and choke combo but misjudgments in distance can happen and nothing retrieves a wounded bird better than a dog. It makes sense to me and if you have the time to spend training a dog to retrieve your bird for you then do it if it's legal in your state. In VA it is not legal in the spring.
Any bird dog, will retrieve a turkey. There is no need to train them, they will just do it.
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I've seen plenty that wouldn't. Just saying. I've also seen hounds that won't tree and beagles with zero interest in rabbits. Not all "hunting dogs" are created equal. No matter what the previous owner says or guarantees of the pup/parents. I'm just glad you've got a good one. Good luck this spring and keep us posted on how it goes.
Is hunting turkey with a dog a new-ish practice, or has this been going on for a while now?
Its on my bucket list to go and hunt with the spaniels that they train specifically to fall hunt with. Amazing.
Quote from: deerbasshunter3 on April 03, 2017, 10:24:38 AM
Is hunting turkey with a dog a new-ish practice, or has this been going on for a while now?
. I'm sure people have been doing it for 100 years. It's illegal in some states, but in the west, people do it.In the south, they have real thick cover, so having a fog, would not work.
Quote from: High plains drifter on March 30, 2017, 06:53:39 PM
I've gotten a few birds, with my dog with me. I'm going to take my dog out this spring.Anybody out there take their dog along?I know it's not the norm, but you can do it.
Very dependent upon state. Rules vary n some states in spring you must call. No scatter, stalk, driving
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Quote from: High plains drifter on April 02, 2017, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: trkehunr93 on April 01, 2017, 10:38:38 AM
The purpose of hunting with a dog in the spring is for retrieval purposes only. The AWTHDA has pushed to get this legalized in several states, we can spend a lot of time making sure we know our gun, load and choke combo but misjudgments in distance can happen and nothing retrieves a wounded bird better than a dog. It makes sense to me and if you have the time to spend training a dog to retrieve your bird for you then do it if it's legal in your state. In VA it is not legal in the spring.
Any bird dog, will retrieve a turkey. There is no need to train them, they will just do it.
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I've seen plenty that wouldn't. Just saying. I've also seen hounds that won't tree and beagles with zero interest in rabbits. Not all "hunting dogs" are created equal. No matter what the previous owner says or guarantees of the pup/parents. I'm just glad you've got a good one. Good luck this spring and keep us posted on how it goes.
thanks- I will post a photo, if I can.