my gun patterns 3.5 hevi 7s great. But taking my fiancé on her first ever turkey hunts this year and the 3.5 hevi is just to much punch for her. Put some 7.5 lead through my gun to check poi. and it patterned great. And obviously there was no kick. so was wondering if anyone has ever used the 7.5s for turkey. and what there results were......... She wouldnt be shooting over 30 yards.
Thanks
That's all Mr. Herb McClure ever used.
Quote from: M Sharpe on March 21, 2017, 07:36:02 AM
That's all Mr. Herb McClure ever used.
Perhaps, but all he killed was " Native Turkeys" everyone knows they aren't hard to kill.. :turkey2:
Bottom barrel of my O/U holds 1-1/4oz 7-1/2s. Shooting them out of a modified choke. If one gets inside 20 yards or so, I'll switch to this barrel. I have no doubt they will take em down cleanly 25 or closer.
BUT, why not 2-3/4 6s? If she is shooting at game, doubt seriously she will ever remember the gun even going off. The excitement will handle the recoil. :z-dizzy:
what about the hevi reduced recoil loads?
She'll be fine with 7.5 lead to 30 yards and likely a yard or two farther.
Back in the dinosaur ages, Federal loaded 3" 12 ga 2oz 7.5 loads... They were WICKED....... I had Mark Bansner build me one of his Predator choked barrels for my old 11-87- choked at .640, it threw a dense, even pattern. Hate i got rid of that gun..
I had my wife shoot reduced recoil hevi shot...but a 7.5 bird load will be fine as far as the pattern holds up
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Quote from: GOOSESLAYER on March 21, 2017, 07:31:31 AM
my gun patterns 3.5 hevi 7s great. But taking my fiancé on her first ever turkey hunts this year and the 3.5 hevi is just to much punch for her. Put some 7.5 lead through my gun to check poi. and it patterned great. And obviously there was no kick. so was wondering if anyone has ever used the 7.5s for turkey. and what there results were......... She wouldnt be shooting over 30 yards.
Thanks
A nice pattern of 7.5 lead at 30 yards or less should be fine, or................
Have her get used to shooting the 7.5 lead. Then when hunting slip in some 3.5 hevi 7's. She won't even notice when shooting at a bird. Guns kick a lot harder when shooting targets. I don't ever remember one kicking me when shooting at a bird. Except for the time when I was younger and shot a lightweight single shot 10 gauge straight up at a crow while squirrel hunting. That one I remember.........LOL
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Quote from: nitro on March 21, 2017, 09:39:05 AM
Back in the dinosaur ages, Federal loaded 3" 12 ga 2oz 7.5 loads... They were WICKED....... I had Mark Bansner build me one of his Predator choked barrels for my old 11-87- choked at .640, it threw a dense, even pattern. Hate i got rid of that gun..
Mark Bansner did some nice shotgun work back in the day
The old Federal 3-2-7.5 were awesome, and they were definitely NOT limited to 30 yards. ;) I'm not sure how fast they were, but the shell had a pretty stiff kick to it.
We could only get them for a few years. " 4 drams of powder" I saved a couple for my collection.
I chronoed them at an average of 1280 -1300 FPS.. They would loosen your teeth and make your eyes water. First time I heard the saying - " kills on one side and stuns on the other " .
Quote from: nitro on March 21, 2017, 10:31:56 AM
We could only get them for a few years. " 4 drams of powder" I saved a couple for my collection.
I chronoed them at an average of 1280 -1300 FPS.. They would loosen your teeth and make your eyes water. First time I heard the saying - " kills on one side and stuns on the other " .
I don't doubt that one bit. 700 pellets flying that fast was like pushing a turkey head through a screen door.
That Federal 7.5 load was all I used while they were available. Bad, bad turkey medicine fer sure !
Gods of Thunder
7.5s at 30 yards no problem.
I remember many times walking up on a Gobbler with a head looking like a yard sprinkler spraying red.. Those 7.5s would damn sure mash one's noggin.
What kind and what gauge gun is she shooting?
A semi-auto will reduce some of the felt recoil on a turkey load, and turkey hunting is not exactly high-volume shooting...
Fiocchi makes a load called "Golden Pheasant" that is nickle plated lead, and patterns better/tighter than most other lead loads I have experimented with. A 1 oz load of #6 Golden Pheasant patterns well in my 20 gauge, as does a 1 3/8 oz load of #6 Golden pheasant in my 12 ga. Either one of these loads will kill a bird out to 35 yards, and probably out to 40 if range is under-estimated...
#7.5's will kill a bird out to 30 yards, but I have my doubts much past that. I think it possible if not likely that out to 35-40 yards, you could make good hits but the pellets might not have the energy to crack that bone... Tough to pass that bird that comes into 35 yards and starts walking the other way...
She will be shooting my NWTF X2 and ill have a back up near by just in case its needed :)
THANKS FOR THE REPLYS
Just be sure to pattern it. 7.5s will kill as far as the pattern holds up. I've dropped a couple on the "oopsie" side of 40 yards, and they ended up just as dead.
Quote from: GOOSESLAYER on March 21, 2017, 12:43:51 PM
She will be shooting my NWTF X2 and ill have a back up near by just in case its needed :)
THANKS FOR THE REPLYS
I assume that is a Winchester X-2? If so, it is a relatively light recoiling gun.
I would never recommend such stout loads for high-volume shooting, and she can patter the gun with light target loads, while you put a shot or two on the patterning board with the turkey loads to make sure they shoot the same (I have never had them not shoot to the same spot)....
I would go with the Golden Pheasant loads, as they put out a nice pattern with that nickel-plated shot...
Admittedly, I cannot comment as to the penetration of #7.5's on a turkey past 30 yards, as I have never used them for turkey hunting... I know that in shooting pheasants (not necessarily head shooting), that #7.5's do not get that penetration past about 30 yards unless you break a bone or hit the head (which would make me hesitant to shoot them for turkeys).
With smaller pellets, I have personally had a more difficult time getting the patterns to hold together for longer ranges as well... Those nickel-plated #6's will pattern tighter than most standard lead pellets, and the pattern hold up very well (at least in my gun).
If you do decide to use the #7.5's, make sure you pick a shell that has high quality shot (higher antimony). Many of the cheap target loads have low antimony and do not perform as well (in my opinion). In other words if you are going to utilize a target load, utilize a premium target load.
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 21, 2017, 10:25:08 AM
The old Federal 3-2-7.5 were awesome, and they were definitely NOT limited to 30 yards. ;) I'm not sure how fast they were, but the shell had a pretty stiff kick to it.
Pretty stiff kick... Hardest kicking load I ever shot!
7-1/2 shot will be no problem out to 30-35 yds or so
Quote from: nitro on March 21, 2017, 07:45:43 AM
Quote from: M Sharpe on March 21, 2017, 07:36:02 AM
That's all Mr. Herb McClure ever used.
Perhaps, but all he killed was " Native Turkeys" everyone knows they aren't hard to kill.. :turkey2:
:TooFunny: Just finished reading that one again last week, one of many I read yearly before the start of turkey season, it's a goodun'! :funnyturkey:
Does it matter light or heavy brass 7.5s? I got some top end clay loads in 7.5 im thinking of seeing how they pattern for her. Winchester AA super sport 1300 fps 1 1/8 oz 7.5s
I've only used a heavy dose of copperplated magnums, but I'd imagine the AA's would be fine out to where their pattern doesn't get too sparse (generally accepted as 80 evenly distributed hits in a 10 inch circle, preferably 100), especially with the smaller payload. I guessing with a good choke, that might stretch it past 30 yards. You'll definitely want to determine that beforehand.
Yes, they will smoke turkeys.
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