Anyone have any idea when we will be able to get 20ga longbeards?
I 2nd that, waiting on GanderMtn to have it on their site, I live in NY so i cant order ammo to home so i'm stuck buying it from Gander.
IVE Seen THESE For SALE, FINALLY
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2nd that. feedback on them???
I ordered mine tonight from Macks Prairie Wings.
I will also be patterning some Hevi 13 #7's and Federal Heavyweight #7's.
I also ordered a box from MPW last night. Still on back order though. Hope they can ship them soon.
Not the 20. But some of my 12g LB have a rattle. I shake it and it is almost like there is a marble rattling in there. Not all but some. What the heck would that be??
Got a box of 6's on the way to see what the pattern looks like. If I can remember to take pictures I post them after this up coming weekend.
Quote from: Parrot Head on March 07, 2017, 06:30:21 AM
Not the 20. But some of my 12g LB have a rattle. I shake it and it is almost like there is a marble rattling in there. Not all but some. What the heck would that be??
They have been jolted and the resin has broken
Quote from: snapper1982 on March 07, 2017, 08:52:45 AM
Quote from: Parrot Head on March 07, 2017, 06:30:21 AM
Not the 20. But some of my 12g LB have a rattle. I shake it and it is almost like there is a marble rattling in there. Not all but some. What the heck would that be??
They have been jolted and the resin has broken
Unless there is a lot of rattle its more likely there is a loose bb inside the resin. Saying that I have never shot/cut open a long beard. I sometimes have a little rattle on my hand loads.
I'll be interested in seeing what the LBs do in a 20g.
Saw a few YouTube clips from winchester. They're making some pretty serious claims on what these loads can do. One guy said up to 3 times the pellets on target compared to the 12 gauge loads. Not sure if I misunderstood him but they make it sound as if the patterns are better than what we've been getting from the 12 gauge LBXR. Maybe just marketing hype. We'll see. Still no word from MPW as to when my order will ship. And I'm skeptical of the low (1000 fps) velocity. I don't like my turkey loads slower than about 1200. We will see....
I'm curious to see some field testing from the average joe hunter myself not the manufacturer especially at penetration at distnce
A # 5 or 6 pellet fired at 1000 fps in a Longbeard is going to have the same retained energy at a given distance as Bubba's Best Turkey loads fired at 1000 fps. Density may and probably is better at any range with the Longbeard, but Winchester needs to cut the advertising crap and stop encouraging people to cripple turkeys.
Yall go down to the 20 gauge threads and read the few threads so far on them
Lead is lead I agree I still shoot HTL loads but have been on several turkey hunts where Longbear #5 flattened birds at distances we claim on this site are unethical. I have personally witnessed birds killed at 55-60 and 60+ range finder verified after the shot again I was not the shooter just stating a factual data points of the 5 birds taken at 50+ over the last two years I have personally witnessed 0 shots fired and birds running off no wounded birds 5 of 5 has some significance. After years of turkey hunting I can say with reasonable confidence those same distances with standard lead loads I would be telling you storys of unethical turkey hunters shooting at ranges to far.
I'm not advocating 60+ yard shots but with the right load aka HTL and Longbear and the right choke it is not unethical to shoot a turkey at 45-50 yards.
-BP
MPW just sent me a confirmation email saying mine had just shipped. I didn't think they'd ever get them in stock. They pushed the stock date back several times this week.