I went to a local sporting goods store to pick up some ammo for my Glock, and I heard through casual conversation that Remington is starting to focus more on the big box stores, like Wal-Mart and Bass Pro, etc. than the smaller local guys. I was wondering if that was the case. Just wondering what is up with Remington if that is so.....
No small or local stores left in my area to sell you a gun. We do have a few high price pawn shops. We have one gun shop that has a small gun store but he sales nothing but hand guns and stuff. He will order a gun for you if he can..It's like with the old small stores with gas pumps they have go to the way side...
Quality with Remington firearms (Marlin and H&R also) has taken a major downward turn in the last ten years. I was raised on Remington rifles and shotguns and luckily still have some old models that will last lifetimes, but there is no way you could GIVE me a new Remington. Sadly, they are but a shadow of their former selves.
Quote from: PALongspur on July 18, 2016, 04:08:16 PM
Quality with Remington firearms (Marlin and H&R also) has taken a major downward turn in the last ten years. I was raised on Remington rifles and shotguns and luckily still have some old models that will last lifetimes, but there is no way you could GIVE me a new Remington. Sadly, they are but a shadow of their former selves.
While I agree Remington's are not the gun they once were, they will still stand up to anything that the average guy throws at them. And by all means, if some one wants to give you one, take it and then give it to me! I'm not that proud!
I own several remington all 10 years old or older. They serve me well and will serve my future generations as well.
Quote from: Farmboy27 on July 18, 2016, 06:17:40 PM
Quote from: PALongspur on July 18, 2016, 04:08:16 PM
Quality with Remington firearms (Marlin and H&R also) has taken a major downward turn in the last ten years. I was raised on Remington rifles and shotguns and luckily still have some old models that will last lifetimes, but there is no way you could GIVE me a new Remington. Sadly, they are but a shadow of their former selves.
While I agree Remington's are not the gun they once were, they will still stand up to anything that the average guy throws at them. And by all means, if some one wants to give you one, take it and then give it to me! I'm not that proud!
x 2 agree, i have two new remington shotguns and they both are good guns..
I HUNT WITH A REMINGTON 25-06 MY GO TO GUN
AND I BOUGHT A VERSA MAX FOR TURKEY AND I THINK THATS IT
I think Remington isn't as good as they us to be ........
A few years ago I bought a 750 woodsman auto and sent it back three times to get it to cycle
And they seem to have it fixed but my confidence using the gun isn't there I oiled real good and put it in a socke and it sits in the safe .........
Quote from: PALongspur on July 18, 2016, 04:08:16 PM
Quality with Remington firearms (Marlin and H&R also) has taken a major downward turn in the last ten years. I was raised on Remington rifles and shotguns and luckily still have some old models that will last lifetimes, but there is no way you could GIVE me a new Remington. Sadly, they are but a shadow of their former selves.
Couldn't have said it better
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About 2005 in my opinion it started going down hill.
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I've got a Browning Silver, Browning BPS and a 40 year old Remington Wingmaster. Best gun and the one I'd keep if I could only keep one? Wingmaster!!
My waterfowl and upland gun is a 1972 Remington 870 Wingmaster. It's been dunked, dropped, painted and generally abused, but that gun has never failed to fire. It has never jammed. I've got other shotguns, but this is the only one I use in the fall, except for turkey.
Remington is selling to box stores and venders in each state, when a small or local owned shop wants to put a Remington in his/her shop they have to go to the vender, they cannot buy from Remington directly.
Thanks for all the replies..... I have been a Remington shooter for a long time and hated to hear of the quality going down hill. You couldn't beat a Model 700 and a 870 in you hunting line up. And the wingmaster is awesome.
I really hope that manufacturing across the board will increase in the U.S. I am tired of seeing China on the back of 98% of our hunting clothes and stuff.
That is a different subject for another post, but thanks for the info!
Bought a new 7 mag 700 last year, it is a shooter right out of the box. Haven't noticed any quality issues compared to my 20 year old 308.
870 turkey guns are both early 90's but a friend has a 5 year old 21" turkey and is just fine.
A supermag , maybe 10 years old when I got it . Did have a rough barrel and it needed a lot of polishing, a lot more than I was going to do on it ! It got sold .
I've got Moss, Remm, and Winch shotguns and I'll take the Remm all day just my personal choice all mine are 15 years or older
I have had several Remington shotguns all were good guns one is a 1100 I've had for over 30 years it's fired thousands of shells never any problems now my son is shooting it
Well, I'm a ruger fan for the most part but there have been a few Remington's to find their way into the stable. I've only had three Remington's that were purchased after the Freedom Corp buyout. Two have been fine but the one had extraction issues right out of the box. While it's not a huge deal, it should've never left the factory that way. Again, not a big issue and it was easy to resolve but it is a bit unnerving. Having said that, they've had lots of issues with bores being misaligned, scope mounting holes bored off center and chambers being cut incorrectly. These are things that shouldn't be an issue ever but alas, they slip through anyway.
I just talked to a co-worker who just got back from Remington Shotgun Armorer's class. He said Remington was very up front with the fact their quality had dropped and they were taking big steps to reverse that.
They said that much of their machinery had reached the end of its useful life and replacements were being done. They admitted they incorporated some lesser quality parts to be used. Specifically bolt carriers, the lifts and extractors.
I guess only time will tell if they have corrected their problems.
That doesn't necessarily explain what happened to the quality of the Marlin lever guns. They went south shortly after they were bought up as well. It's just odd to me that Marlin was capable of producing a fine lever gun and as soon as Remington acquired them, "POOF", it was over. All of that machinery was still the same. I'd heard a rumor that the people at the original Marlin factory were replaced and that had something to do with it but I'm obviously not on the inside loop so to speak. I do hope they get things straightened out though because there are lots of people that love the Remington line.
Quote from: outdoors on July 18, 2016, 07:35:53 PM
I HUNT WITH A REMINGTON 25-06 MY GO TO GUN
AND I BOUGHT A VERSA MAX FOR TURKEY AND I THINK THATS IT
I think Remington isn't as good as they us to be ........
A few years ago I bought a 750 woodsman auto and sent it back three times to get it to cycle
And they seem to have it fixed but my confidence using the gun isn't there I oiled real good and put it in a socke and it sits in the safe .........
what is the 750 woodsman? Is it a pump or semi auto?
It's the new automatic. It replaced the 7400. The 742 had issues so they replaced it with the 7400. To try and stay with the changing market, they revised the 7400 and came out with the 750. Had this been the Remington of yesteryear, I'd bet that the 750 would have done very well. So far however, the general public hasn't been to impressed according to what I've heard from the fellas at the gun shop.
Quote from: ncturkey on August 07, 2016, 09:40:25 AM
Quote from: outdoors on July 18, 2016, 07:35:53 PM
I HUNT WITH A REMINGTON 25-06 MY GO TO GUN
AND I BOUGHT A VERSA MAX FOR TURKEY AND I THINK THATS IT
I think Remington isn't as good as they us to be ........
A few years ago I bought a 750 woodsman auto and sent it back three times to get it to cycle
And they seem to have it fixed but my confidence using the gun isn't there I oiled real good and put it in a socke and it sits in the safe .........
what is the 750 woodsman? Is it a pump or semi auto?
YUP ITS A SEMI- AUTO I HAVE IT IN THE 308
Quote from: outdoors on August 07, 2016, 07:54:32 PM
Quote from: ncturkey on August 07, 2016, 09:40:25 AM
Quote from: outdoors on July 18, 2016, 07:35:53 PM
I HUNT WITH A REMINGTON 25-06 MY GO TO GUN
AND I BOUGHT A VERSA MAX FOR TURKEY AND I THINK THATS IT
I think Remington isn't as good as they us to be ........
A few years ago I bought a 750 woodsman auto and sent it back three times to get it to cycle
And they seem to have it fixed but my confidence using the gun isn't there I oiled real good and put it in a socke and it sits in the safe .........
what is the 750 woodsman? Is it a pump or semi auto?
YUP ITS A SEMI- AUTO I HAVE IT IN THE 308
I've not looked but if they still make it in a carbine, that 308 would be phenomenal.