There are many different opinions on what is "too early and "too close to season" for scouting. Patterns change from winter to Spring which makes it a tricky process to scout too early; however, a lot of people don't like being in the woods too close to season for fear of spooking birds. When do you scout?
I was out this morning. 8 different birds gobbling within 200 yards of my back door. One was 100 yards or less.
4 weeks before the season opens
Imo you should absolutley not "be in the woods". That being said if so make it very very limited n do it low impact. I normally start scouting by looking for them visually in mid Feb to early March, by early to mid March by hearing them. Yes the winter flocks break up n move but they don't leave the county. I call it keeping tabs on em n once I find a bunch I normally try em stay with their movements by listening or looking every chance I can. Over time you'll actually know what phase things are in by their locations n you'll know where to expect them next. Can't find too many birds, like money in the bank
I like to get out starting a few weeks before season and I continue to scout right up til the opener, but my scouting closer to season here by the house consists of sitting on top of a big hill where I can see a long ways and watching the birds with binos. I'll do this on and off through the season in the afternoons and evenings too.
Bob
I do some "light" pre-scouting about 3-4 weeks before seasons start, this is more or less done from the truck. A good ear and binos are doing a lot of the work. When I get within 2 weeks of season, it's game plan time and serious scouting is going on and I am locating 25+ birds so I know where they are. I am continuously scouting though to the end of the season.
MK M GOBL
I hunt public,so I wait till the season starts. All the crap that goes on where I hunt makes the birds change there pattern for the most part.
In Ohio I start scouting now to see how many birds r in the area since they've grouped up. I start getting serious about April 1. I will also use March to walk over new property.
I started here in PA last week a couple mornings before work. I'll probably get out a couple more times in March and then hit it hard a few weeks before the season opens. My Dad, recently retired, is not a turkey hunter but enjoys time in the forest so he keeps a running tally for me on what he's hearing. He's my unpaid assistant I tell him...
I like to kep tabs on the winter flocks and get out and look for them,usually from a distance. After they start to break up I go out to my hunting areas early in the morning and listen for them. I try and keep it low impact and stay out of the woods.
Quote from: fallhnt on March 13, 2016, 06:29:58 PM
I hunt public,so I wait till the season starts. All the crap that goes on where I hunt makes the birds change there pattern for the most part.
Pretty much what I do.
Ill be starting this week
If you don't know your turf well you should be in the timber mid-day right now learning it.
We secured access to a new piece several weeks ago and started walking it immediately to evaluate habitat characteristics, see the topography and identifying hang-ups. I don't like to be in the timber disrupting birds as the season draws closer so we tend to take care of the "in the woods" stuff in the late fall.
I'll actually start listening for birds here in VA starting next weekend. As for my out of state hunting.... I tend to scout-hunt my first day or two when I'm in a new place so I can make more informed decisions as the hunt progresses.
I live over an hour from my turkey hunting spots, and getting away to hunt is difficult enough... I scout whenever I can, and if I could scout the day before I would...
Nice thing about the Rio's I hunt is that they are vocal. Driving down a gravel road in which the birds are used to traffic is a great way to scout and figure out where birds are... I avoid calling, unless I am hunting a new area and have no idea if there are even birds on the property. If I get a response, my calling stops immediately.
OP there is nothing wrong with scouting close to season. It is my preferred method. 1 week before season. I will keep tabs and scout as i shed hunt but i get serious right before season.
I am scouting for turkeys any time I'm in the woods, year round. I find myself paying more and more attention to turkey sign than deer during the fall. But I'd say a few weeks before spring opener is a good start. Now I wont hesitate a second to scout right up to the day before either. When season is close and I am doing some "Fine tune scouting", I go at it just as I hunt, minus the calls of course but its in before light and set up to listen. Tread lightly and birds are none the wiser.
I "scout" literally every day...all year round. Every time I see, hear, or hear anything about turkeys I am thinking about WHY they are, WHERE they are, WHEN they are.
As for actual "boots on the ground", anytime I get the chance to get out and learn more about the terrain I hunt or the habits of the birds there, the more successful I will be.
The harder you work, the " luckier" you will be!
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Quote from: snapper1982 on March 13, 2016, 10:25:47 PM
This is hilarious! Oh no dont go in the woods you will spook birds and run them all away! Lmao! What a joke. I guess turkeys do not have any other dangers besides humans and it is humans walking through the woods that will make them leave and never come back. Better not ever hunt your property because you will spook the birds and they wont come back again lol. Bottom line turkeys encounter danger on a daily basis and they still come back to the same areas. Ever seen a bird leave a field because of a coyote and then come back within an hour? Good thing fall turkeys dont know to leave and never come back to the exact same area huh. I bet if they did that it would be a deadly hunting tactic.
OP there is nothing wrong with scouting close to season. It is my preferred method. 1 week before season. I will keep tabs and scout as i shed hunt but i get serious right before season.
The more intrusion an animal is exposed to the higher the likelihood of causing it to alter its behavior.
There's no reason to be in the timber if you know your ground. You can listen to where they fly down, which way they head and assess behavior from a distance without being in there with the birds (if you know your dirt).
Turkeys are certainly exposed to a variety of threatening encounters throughout each day but I see no reason to contribute to that number. I stay out of the woods as much as possible and attempt to minimize my presence except when I'm out of state and forced to do so.
To each their own but less is more when it comes to disrupting game.
I don't make a noise, eyes only while scouting right up to the week before. Last thing I need is for them to hear my squeaky version of a turkey sound in advance! Gotta save that for the opener so they come in confused rather than horny!!
My season opens 04/09, and I started beginning of March. Listen in the mornings, and mid-day I'll go clear some spots to sit so I can get in quietly when the time comes. I don't go into the woods the last 3 weeks before the opener.
My season opens in one month. I'll be out scouting tomorrow for the first time. I'll go mid-morning and glass the pipelines and roads and then spend some time checking for tracks and sign.
I won't be out to listen for wake-up gobbles until just before season.