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Title: Multi-Beards?
Post by: Dr.Love on April 20, 2014, 09:24:30 PM
I was lucky enough to take a bird with 4 beards. I was wondering how rare this is.
Also dose anyone have a good way to display them. Would like to keep them all attached if I can find a good way.
Thanks
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: DirtNap647 on April 20, 2014, 09:37:18 PM
The more beards the more rare they are out there but rare...congrats
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Post by: slamman on April 20, 2014, 09:41:13 PM
congrats post pics.
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: hookedspur on April 20, 2014, 09:49:33 PM
Never happened without the pictures      ;)
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: Dr.Love on April 20, 2014, 10:12:41 PM
How do you post pictures off a phone?
Title: Multi-Beards?
Post by: Dr.Love on April 21, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
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Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: Skeeterbait on April 21, 2014, 09:35:10 PM
That is nice!  Out of 34 years and many birds I have only ever killed one that had two beards.
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: hunter22 on April 21, 2014, 09:40:32 PM
Great gobbler for sure. That one comes along once in a lifetime.
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Post by: tomstopper on April 21, 2014, 10:48:04 PM
Very nice. I have never killed a multi bearded bird. Congrats......
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: nativeks on April 22, 2014, 02:32:13 AM
I've killed one with three and several with 2. Buddy killed one with 6 once upon a time.
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Post by: JALA Strut on April 22, 2014, 01:34:57 PM
WOW, Great bird...That would make a sweet looking full body mount!
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: appalachianstruttstopper on April 22, 2014, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: Dr.Love on April 20, 2014, 09:24:30 PM
I was lucky enough to take a bird with 4 beards. I was wondering how rare this is.
Also dose anyone have a good way to display them. Would like to keep them all attached if I can find a good way.
Thanks

Best way IMO to display multi-beard bird is neck stretched out gobbling. Like on a limb or something. Quarter strut gobbling displays multi-beards well too.

BTW congrats on the nice bird!!
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: Dark Cloud on April 22, 2014, 02:30:35 PM
There's a pic of one with 9 beards on ky hunting forum killed in central ky
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: darn2ten on April 22, 2014, 04:24:39 PM
Multi bearded birds are kind of common in some areas, and not so common in others. I killed a double beard this year, and one with 4 beards last year. I have one mounted that has 3 beards. I've killed 4 double beards over the years. Just up the road from me a guy took his daughter on the youth hunt this year and she killed one with 6 beards. Her first bird ever, lol! After our regular season started he went back in the same area and killed one with 4 beards. Area I use to live in you hardly ever heard of anybody killing one with multiple beards.
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: guesswho on April 22, 2014, 04:40:41 PM
I wouldn't say their common in a couple places I hunt, but they aren't rare either.  I've killed them from seven beards all the way down to one.  Killed two double beards and two four bearded birds in one season. 

Great bird and congrtas. 
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: Dr.Love on April 24, 2014, 12:18:55 PM
Thanks everyone. This is truly a bird of a life time. However I am not able to get a full body mount at this time. Thinking about doing some kind of beard board. Anyone have a suggestion of one that will look good with this set of beards?
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: NECKRINGER on April 24, 2014, 12:24:04 PM
So glad u answered guess.
Cause I was gunna tell him rare for everyone but you.

My mc squared brain
Has put together and average for most people and places
1 out of 25 birds may be multi bearded

Unless u hunt nuclear waste sites like guesswho
Then they have rotten legs and beards everywhere
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: GobbleNut on April 24, 2014, 04:36:33 PM
"Multi-beard-ism", if you will, is totally a function of genetics.  Certain places, with the right genetics, have the likelihood of producing multiple-bearded gobblers to a much greater degree than other places. 

For example, for those of you that might want to kill a Merriams turkey with a multiple beard, you should avoid hunting the Lincoln National Forest in southern New Mexico.  I can absolutely assure you that your chances of killing one here are nearly zero.  I have hunted this area for nearly fifty years and have seen probably a thousand dead Merriams gobblers in that time, and have looked over ten times that many live ones.  Out of all those turkeys, I have seen exactly ONE multiple-bearded Merriams gobbler, and he had two,...of which the secondary beard was maybe three inches long.  The odds of a gobbler have multiple-beards here is, without a doubt, less than one in a thousand,...and probably significantly less than that.

As they say in the real estate business,....it's all a matter of location, location, location!
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: Dr.Love on April 24, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
Any chance the number and size of the extra beards has anything to do with old age?
Been hunting a bird in the area for a number of years now. Its been so long I figured he has died of old age by now. No way to tell if this him or not but if this could be an older bird that would make the hunt even better.
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: GobbleNut on April 24, 2014, 05:10:42 PM
Quote from: Dr.Love on April 24, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
Any chance the number and size of the extra beards has anything to do with old age?
Been hunting a bird in the area for a number of years now. Its been so long I figured he has died of old age by now. No way to tell if this him or not but if this could be an older bird that would make the hunt even better.

I believe there is a high degree of certainty that the age of a gobbler has nothing to do with whether he has extra beards or not.  Once again, that is a genetic trait that is predetermined by the combination of chromosomes and dna of the parents. 

However, since beards are constantly growing, the likelihood that an older gobbler will have a longer beard, or beards if he is a multi-beard, is quite good.  However, there are "environmental influences", such as harsh winters or poor habitat conditions produced by drought, that could cause a gobblers beard to actually decrease in length with age due to breakage of the beard strands.

The ability of a gobblers beard to withstand breakage is related to the melanin content of the strands.  Poor habitat conditions, or possibly an illness or disease the bird might experience, can cause a melanin deficiency in the beard.  That deficiency will generally be consistent with the growth of each strand of the beard, thus, when you see a mature gobbler with his beard looking like it was cut off at a certain point, that is most likely due to the strands of beard at the break point having weakened due to the gobbler, at some point in the past, not being able to assimilate enough nutrients in its diet to maintain the melanin level in its beard as it grew.

That is typically referred to as "beard rot" by us turkey hunters, although that is really a catch-all term for the conditions which might cause the melanin deficiency and corresponding potential breakage of the beard strands.
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: Wrangler95 on April 24, 2014, 07:53:13 PM
 :happy0064:congrats
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: Snoodsniper on April 24, 2014, 08:27:32 PM
Double beards are getting more common around here. I know of at least six that were killed within a 30 mile radius including one I shot.
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Post by: Snoodsniper on April 24, 2014, 08:34:17 PM
Last year that is.....
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: appalachianstruttstopper on April 25, 2014, 03:26:54 PM
Quote from: Dr.Love on April 24, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
Any chance the number and size of the extra beards has anything to do with old age?
Been hunting a bird in the area for a number of years now. Its been so long I figured he has died of old age by now. No way to tell if this him or not but if this could be an older bird that would make the hunt even better.

My second turkey when I was a kid was a double bearded jake, so, I wouldn't think age has anything to do with it.
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: CT Spur Collector on April 25, 2014, 03:49:41 PM
Nice Tom!!  You score it and list that on the NWTF records web site.
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: Dr.Love on April 27, 2014, 01:14:13 PM
Havent sent it in to have it listed yet but it scored 104.75!
Thanks for all the info GobbleNut.
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: dfresh55 on April 27, 2014, 02:01:10 PM
thats awsome good kill... yeah i was visiting the turkey roost taxidermy to get mine mounted and there was a 7 bearded monster ronnie smith shot that they were doing wish i would have taken a pick...
Title: Re: Multi-Beards?
Post by: RutnNStrutn on April 27, 2014, 02:05:16 PM
I agree that it is genetics. Some people hunt in areas that produce higher than average numbers of multi-beards. Congrats on a fine bird, I hope you are getting him mounted! :icon_thumright: