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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Gun Sights & Optics => Topic started by: EMDawg on February 25, 2014, 10:15:52 AM

Title: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: EMDawg on February 25, 2014, 10:15:52 AM
Guys,
I'm a long time reader, but new poster. I need some help deciding on what sights to put on my BPS NWTF 12 this year. It came with the Hi-Viz TriViz sights from the factory and I'm not a fan. With the rhino choke and hevi-shot loads, its dang near a rifle at 40 yards. I want to try something new, but I have only shot fiberoptics in the past. I've read several of y'alls post about red-dots, scopes, and the Burris FFIII. I also have looked at the williams firesights, but I'm sure how how the front sight will install on my rib. If you had to go with one sight, which one would you go with and why?

Thanks in advance
Trey
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: CrustyRusty on February 25, 2014, 11:44:00 AM
Is your gun drilled and tapped?  The reason I ask is because the browning scope base is a terrible design.and only allows for scopes or red dots that use two rings.  Otherwise the williams or hi viz sights will be fine.  I have been using my front sight only and like the simplicity.  However, a good red dot makes life easier.  Now that burris gives a lifetime warranty on the ff sights, I would lean to that since they are so light.  Good luck
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: EMDawg on February 25, 2014, 11:59:22 AM
It has two screws on the top of the receiver 1 7/8" apart
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: CrustyRusty on February 25, 2014, 01:36:40 PM
That screw pattern is for the Browning base.  I have looked all over for another base that matches that screw hole pattern without luck.  Unless you can make a custom base you are stuck with the Browning base.  BTW, the Browning base is weaver only, so if you get a ff3 make sure you get a weaver base for it.
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: EMDawg on February 25, 2014, 01:50:12 PM
Thanks for the help. That browning base looks horrible for the FFIII mount. I may see what the gunsmith can do.
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: CrustyRusty on February 25, 2014, 04:27:36 PM
Good luck, yeah I don't know what browning is thinking. If you do have a Smith able to mate the bps with a small pic rail, could you please let me know.  I would love one myself.  Thanks Russ
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: bpsmag1026 on February 26, 2014, 12:01:03 PM
I have a browning base on my BPS with an FFIII on it, it doesn't look as good as a smaller base would but it works well.
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: CrustyRusty on February 26, 2014, 01:16:52 PM
Hey bps...do you have the burris low weaver mount and did you mount in the front or rear slot?  Any pics? Thanks
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: mudhen on February 26, 2014, 02:27:39 PM
Yep, the factory mount ain't sleek for sure, but I have had no problems with sighting in or using it in the field...

I took the Dremel to the base to make it work with picatinny, but only because I already had the picatinny mount...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/mudhen/2012Turkey281_zps7a1d656e.jpg)

mudhen
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: bpsmag1026 on February 26, 2014, 02:32:56 PM
That's what mine looks like except i don't have the guard. I just used the standard mount that came with the sight and put it in the rear slot.
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: the Ward on February 26, 2014, 02:35:20 PM
Beautiful photo Mudhen!
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: CrustyRusty on February 26, 2014, 05:02:23 PM
Hey mudhen, what exactly did you do to your mount? I prefer the picatinny mount since its lower. Could I take a round file to the base?  Also, is there enough rail section on the base to get a good purchase with the mount?  Thanks.

Quote from: mudhen on February 26, 2014, 02:27:39 PM
Yep, the factory mount ain't sleek for sure, but I have had no problems with sighting in or using it in the field...

I took the Dremel to the base to make it work with picatinny, but only because I already had the picatinny mount...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/mudhen/2012Turkey281_zps7a1d656e.jpg)

mudhen
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: mudhen on February 26, 2014, 07:34:47 PM
Eggzackly, I filed down the slot a bit.  I recall it was only an issue of the thickness of the black coating before the base fit.  Go slow, keep checking the fit.

The base itself does not hang over, but the platform does.  No problems so far.  Seems pretty sturdy, and I tend to be hard on gear...

mudhen

Quote from: CrustyRusty on February 26, 2014, 05:02:23 PM
Hey mudhen, what exactly did you do to your mount? I prefer the picatinny mount since its lower. Could I take a round file to the base?  Also, is there enough rail section on the base to get a good purchase with the mount?  Thanks.

Quote from: mudhen on February 26, 2014, 02:27:39 PM
Yep, the factory mount ain't sleek for sure, but I have had no problems with sighting in or using it in the field...

I took the Dremel to the base to make it work with picatinny, but only because I already had the picatinny mount...

mudhen
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: CrustyRusty on February 26, 2014, 08:19:20 PM
Thank you kindly
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: J-Shaped on February 27, 2014, 11:29:53 PM
I found a Weaver base that lined up with the two existing holes and then had my gunsmith drill and tap for the two additional holes in the base so I have 4 screws. I use the Leupold steel Weaver style rings with a Pentax 2.5X scope. It's a solid system that has served me well.
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: runningdeer on March 03, 2014, 02:25:45 PM
Quote from: mudhen on February 26, 2014, 02:27:39 PM
Yep, the factory mount ain't sleek for sure, but I have had no problems with sighting in or using it in the field...

I took the Dremel to the base to make it work with picatinny, but only because I already had the picatinny mount...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/mudhen/2012Turkey281_zps7a1d656e.jpg)

mudhen

Awesome pic!
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: EMDawg on March 10, 2014, 10:30:40 AM
Well I got my FF3 installed on my BPS and so far I love it. Gunsmith put a trigger job on my gun while he had it as well. It's NICE! Question for you guys, do y'all leave the plastic cover on you FF3 while you are in the woods? Thanks fellas
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: CrustyRusty on March 10, 2014, 04:03:27 PM
Hey EM, so how did you wind up mounting the fastfire? Did your Smith make you one door did you wind up using the Browning base.
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: EMDawg on March 10, 2014, 06:35:31 PM
He took a pic rail and mounted it to that. Turned out out well and not too high. There's a small gap at the rear of the pic rail but it seems stable and held zero
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: CrustyRusty on March 10, 2014, 06:59:15 PM
Looks good thanks
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: DirtNap647 on March 13, 2014, 07:17:36 AM
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Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: d.winsor on April 05, 2014, 01:17:35 AM
Quote from: CrustyRusty on February 25, 2014, 11:44:00 AM
Is your gun drilled and tapped?  The reason I ask is because the browning scope base is a terrible design.and only allows for scopes or red dots that use two rings.  Otherwise the williams or hi viz sights will be fine.  I have been using my front sight only and like the simplicity.  However, a good red dot makes life easier.  Now that burris gives a lifetime warranty on the ff sights, I would lean to that since they are so light.  Good luck

I would re check that lifetime warranty, I just bought one and the warranty card said one year.
Title: Re: BPS 12 - Sights, Holo, or RedDot
Post by: CrustyRusty on April 05, 2014, 03:04:08 PM
The website indicates the warranty and when I got my new ff3 it also had that warrany card. When I went to register online it indicated they all carry the new improved warranty.