So I have come into possession of a Mossberg Ulti-mag. It is very light and the 3.5 artillery round it shoots is killing me. I am thinking of filling the stock with lead to give it a bit of weight to help control the recoil but I am a little worried about screwing up the balance. Does anyone have an ideas or suggestions for taking the sting out of this cannon?
A limbsaver recoil pad. Mercury recoil reducer. Shoot 3 inch shells
The Limbsaver pad will help alittle.
Yes--what CASH said. Mossberg makes weighted tunes you can put in your stock provided it is compatible. The Sims pad does wonders.
Most importantly: place forward pressure on your slide. Pressure towards your target. This alone can reduce felt recoil by up to 30%.
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My question to you or anyone on here is this. If you were even in the slightest worried about kick or recoil from any gun for that matter, why in heck would you even think about buying a 3.5" shotgun. So many folks try and say that a Moss 835 is a kicking mule or that it knocks them silly. Sorry, but any 3.5" pump shotgun shooting 2.25oz turkey loads is going to kick you more than a 458 Win Mag by about 12 pounds of shoulder force. And you don't see any folks who have the 458 Win Mag complaining about recoil now do ya. Just saying.
And I only say that for the way you try and say the Moss 835 is a cannon. It's for from it.
you only feel it shooting at paper,you don't feel it shooting at birds
If you just can not stand it I would suggest what everyone else has and also add this into the mix. Get an Evoshield shooters shirt.
I could give 2 you know whats about the Robertsons being sponsored by them, and that has just recently happened. However, I do support their products. I am a fastpich/baseball high school coach and can attest that the products they put out are legit. I firmly back what they sell and it is quality material.
Here's what I've been doing for the last 6-7 years. I made a homemade sandbag from a thick insulated sock. Put sand in a heavy ziploc bag shaped the size of the sock. When you shoot just put it horizontal between the stock and your shoulder. It will feel a little awkward at first and will lengthen your pull a little but i find it works great!! It doesn't throw my poi off at all. Scopes, red dots, holo sights, fiber optic, or plane bead. It basicly turns the sharp fast tblow into a heavy push. Keep in mind though the sand gives and absorbs some of the recoil which the gun still comes back taking up the slack/cushion in the bag quickly still. If you get to relaxed shooting a scope you can. still get bit by the scope.I've tried to get other people to try it but they say no thanks.lol But their the ones still complaining about the recoil of the 3.5's. I would say a small bag of shot would work even better. Give it a try you may be surprised!!
Surehuntsalot, you are correct I never feel recoil when shooting at bird deer etc. its at the range that is an issue. I will look into the limb savers and give the sand bag a shot...
I have a sims limbsaver slip on recoil pad. I use it at the range. Like they already said your not going to feel it when you shoot at a big gobbler.
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This is what I did.
I was shooting Winchester extended elites, in 3.5 out of my 835, and they were causing a serious flinch. I just got to the point that I wanted nothing to do with them, even with the limbsaver pad.
So, I dropped down to a 3" shell, and I haven't had a problem since. I shoot the Hevi-13 3-2-7's, and get a very even, hunting pattern.
I in no way feel undergunned with my 3" shell. Whether I have 200 pellets, or close to 300 in the 10" circle at 40, it doesn't matter. To each their own because dead is dead. Another 100 pellets won't make a difference.
Quote from: chatterbox on February 23, 2014, 08:14:24 AM
This is what I did.
I was shooting Winchester extended elites, in 3.5 out of my 835, and they were causing a serious flinch. I just got to the point that I wanted nothing to do with them, even with the limbsaver pad.
So, I dropped down to a 3" shell, and I haven't had a problem since. I shoot the Hevi-13 3-2-7's, and get a very even, hunting pattern.
I in no way feel undergunned with my 3" shell. Whether I have 200 pellets, or close to 300 in the 10" circle at 40, it doesn't matter. To each their own because dead is dead. Another 100 pellets won't make a difference.
:icon_thumright: exactly
I used to have a 835 - I now regret getting rid of it , but anyways...... Load the gun right up , weight it down will all the ammo you can stuff in the magazine this will help , one time I was patterning it with the old federal loads about 20 years ago , and I thought that padding up my shoulder with a folded up sweater , and laying over the hood of my truck would help , let me tell you I thought I just about broke my shoulder , what a mistake ... I remember my fingers going numb - when shooting it at a turkey I don't notice I thing
It's hard to beat a 835 , it's affordable cannon , that shoots many turkey loads excellent
And yes, Get a limbsaver , they really help
Some of you girls need to turn in your man card ASAP haha. No the ole 835 I have kicks like a mule, but like said eariler, I haven't went up against a 3.5 inch gun loaded with 3.5 inch turkey loads that didn't kick my brains out. Tough out the sighting in/patterning part of it, and take it hunting. Once you pull the trigger on that ole gobbler you won't feel a thing :icon_thumright:
What Cash said, a limbsaver pad will take some of the sting out of it, but for sighting in or patterning LEAD SLED!!!
Caldwell Lead sled and 50 lbs of weight. Tames those 12 gauge 3.5" rounds.
You'll never feel it when shooting at a turkey.
Gman
I SECOND THE Caldwell Lead sled ..............
Quote from: surehuntsalot on February 22, 2014, 10:13:31 PM
you only feel it shooting at paper,you don't feel it shooting at birds
X-2
I posted this before. That little peice of pipe insulation taped in camo velcrowed to the stock helps big time. It may not win a beauty contest you may find matching tape and it wont look too bad. Oooo and yes don't forget the
limbsaver too.
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This is what I did. I picked up a thumbhole stock dirct from Mossberg and replaced the "decent" ventilated pad with a Sims pad and added a piece of 1/4" thick camo neoprene, trimmed to fit the cheek pad area. If you don't want or don't like a thombhole stock (it and the Sims pad does add a little bit to the LOP), You might want to look into a shim kit. You can buy them off Ebay for about 5-8 bucks and they will help with Drop at the comb and should take care of some of the cheek slap that's actually the biggest part of the felt recoil from an 835. You know? Every time you shoot it a dentist feels a disturbance in the force? :z-dizzy: You can STILL add that piece of neoprene to the stock, be it a field stock or AR style, collapsable, just be sure to use a good STRONG glue. I'll put my 835 thumbhole up against ANY other pump gun of any brand weight for weight and I guarantee it will recoil less...
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on February 28, 2014, 09:55:26 AM
they will help with Drop at the comb and should take care of some of the cheek slap that's actually the biggest part of the felt recoil from an 835. :z-dizzy: I'll put my 835 thumbhole up against ANY other pump gun of any brand weight for weight and I guarantee it will recoil less...
Great idea you had Mighty Joe... I wish I could take a pop with yours. I feel the same way you do, about mine (Frances).I named her Francis after my Mom, Because.... a slap from your MaMa hurts more than anything else in the world! espically when it's cold. Lol ;D
Happy Hunting
You 835ers
Quote from: Gamblinman on February 27, 2014, 08:43:32 PM
Caldwell Lead sled and 50 lbs of weight. Tames those 12 gauge 3.5" rounds.
You'll never feel it when shooting at a turkey.
Gman
The lead sleds are a great innovation, however, they can be loaded with too much weight. Over load them, and the gun will pay the price. That recoil has to go somewhere.
LIMBSAVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT HELPS
WORKS WONDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with xcalibers earlier remarks......take a maxi pad and peel off the adhesive strip and stick the pad on your shoulder...then turn in your man card. :drool:
All kidding aside these shotguns can be punishing especially at the patterning board.