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Title: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: guesswho on March 10, 2011, 06:47:22 PM
I'm just curious, I get this way from time to time ;D 

I don't care that some people use decoys and blinds.  It's a personal choice issue and I understand that and don't have any problem with it.   But I have two or three questions for those of you who do use one or both.
 
1. Why do you use them?
 
2.  Do you ever see yourself getting away from using either one or both?

3.  Do you feel you need them to be successful at killing turkeys?   
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: redarrow on March 10, 2011, 06:53:04 PM
Well ,I own both but don't really use them. However ,this year I will be a guest on a new farm and my buddy uses a blind,and dekes. So who knows . If I decide to hunt with the crossbow I will use a blind for sure. Mainly because I cant hold the crossbow at the ready for any length of time.
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: TRKYHTR on March 10, 2011, 06:54:16 PM
I don't use a blind. I've been in 1 a couple times and hate it. I need to be able to move. I do use a decoy from time to time. The main reason I use a decoy is to get better footage. It seems to keep the turkeys occupied for longer periods of time, which makes for better video. No I don't need a decoy to kill a turkey. I've probably killed 80% or more of my turkeys without a decoy. I look at it like another tool in my arsenal. Just like my thermacel, limb cutters, Nitros, calls, camo, etc...

TRKYHTR
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: wisconsinteacher on March 10, 2011, 06:56:39 PM
I use both when hunting with kids, my bow or in a field where birds can come from any direction to work the middle of the field over. 
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: Gobble! on March 10, 2011, 07:01:41 PM
I use decoys because it makes killing birds easier. Will I ever stop no way. Can I kill birds without yes I have many times.
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: fallhnt on March 10, 2011, 07:06:16 PM
Yes, I bowhunt in spring and fall.Turkeys come in by the dozen in march and april in NE. and KS.I don't always use decoys.So they are good tools for me.
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: RutnNStrutn on March 10, 2011, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: guesswho on March 10, 2011, 06:47:22 PM
1. Why do you use them?
2.  Do you ever see yourself getting away from using either one or both?
3.  Do you feel you need them to be successful at killing turkeys?
I began using them because the guys that taught me the basics of turkey hunting used them. On Florida public lands, where I have done most of my turkey hunting, running and gunning doesn't work very well. So we do a lot of sitting over dekes. I have done very little blind hunting. I've only used blinds to get out of the rain, or when hunting with my Dad 'cause he can't sit still. :lol: If I were ever to bowhunt turkeys I would use a blind.
I don't see myself exclusively getting away from them, but I also don't always use them. I have done some running and gunning, and killed several turkeys without decoys, and I thoroughly enjoyed myself. I also have been on some hunts where I am certain the gobbler would not have come in if it wasn't for the decoy. Conversely, I have been on hunts where I know for certain the decoy kept the gobbler from coming in.
No, I don't feel I need them. I just think that turkey hunting isn't a rigid thing. Sometimes the run n' gun works, sometimes sitting over dekes works. Sometimes I do a hybrid by doing the run n' gun, and if I get a response I hustle and set up 1 deke and then get ready. Sometimes I spot and stalk, and have been quite successful at it. But I don't need dekes or a blind to kill a gobbler.
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: mossy835 on March 10, 2011, 07:19:23 PM
Currently I do not use either one, but I am considering a half blind and two decoys for where I hunt. I am in the learning curve and will wait and see. We also film when we can and there a blind is necessary. My friend uses a commercial digital camera (video in his business) and I use a good quality DSLR so being able to use the camera almost means a blind is necessary. My first bird was during the fly down and I was sitting in a snow bank near a tree and the crazy turkey almost landed on my head so the camo worked that time. Good post.
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: hookedspur on March 10, 2011, 07:21:41 PM
Quote from: wisconsinteacher on March 10, 2011, 06:56:39 PM
I use both when hunting with kids, my bow or in a field where birds can come from any direction to work the middle of the field over. 
:agreed: There is a time and place for them without a doubt
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: blgoose on March 10, 2011, 07:34:06 PM
I am currently looking into blinds, I have to cage that wild boy :character0029:

All kidding aside he does really well but I don't see him at his age being able to stay motionless for very long.  I own decoys, have used them on occasion but usually they stay in the shed or truck.  Everyone is in it for different reasons and I respect that.
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: Garrett Trentham on March 10, 2011, 09:22:47 PM
I use both on occasion, sometimes just one or the other.

I use decoys 95% of the time. I think decoys are to me what calls are to a lot of people on this site. They are an art form. If used correctly, they can be a huge asset, when used incorrectly, they can ruin a hunt. If the paintscheme on a decoy doesn't please me, I will repaint them to look realistic (switched last season to photo printed decoys, can't out paint that!). I have been passionate about decoys since childhood, often taking duck decoys to show and tell at school. I currently work for a decoy manufactuer which allows me to test, study, and attempt to create or improve upon current decoy designs and methods. My style of hunting often incorporates fooling my quarry's sense of sight with good comouflage and good decoys.

I use blinds maybe 10% of the time. To me, blinds are a way of making the hunt more comfortable. When it starts to rain, or when I have covered all the land my legs can handle without raising a gobble, I can retreat to my blind setup in a likely spot and continue hunting when I otherwise would have headed to the house. I have done the whole set the blind up at daybreak where I saw a turkey the other day and then wait for him to come back. Thats fun and all and is still sporting, but it just isn't as fun as chasing the turkey on his terms. I can't say it's an easier method, but it is too much like deer hunting to me.
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: Basser69 on March 10, 2011, 09:49:29 PM
Blind, with the kids? Always! Dekes, sometimes. Just calling without either, when I am alone. Which is not enough
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: bowhunter84 on March 10, 2011, 09:52:59 PM
i have a blind but have never used it. i do use decoys a good but but not always.  when i decide to hunt them with a bow i will use a blind
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: Kylongspur88 on March 10, 2011, 09:59:44 PM
I sit in the blind when it's raining or I'm bow hunting, I use a hen decoy basically to take the attention away from me. I think there have been times when a bird comes in and doesn't see that hen and leaves. "Visual reinforcement." I don't use a decoy much in the woods, but a hen on a field edge or in a logging road sure perks the curiosity of gobblers.
Tip: I use a plane jane foam decoy, tossed the stake that came with it and put an old aluminum arrow shaft with a field point out in place of the stake. On a windy day it will blow the decoy over, but in a slight breeze that decoy spins like a top. Last year when my decoy started to spin that gobbler came in on a string...
Using either is situational and I just see it as another tool to use:
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: misfire on March 10, 2011, 10:17:21 PM
I only use a blind in the rain, the rest of the time, nothing
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: redleg06 on March 11, 2011, 12:01:36 AM
1. - I use decoys because they can be a very effective tool.
2. - I dont see myself getting away from them because Im not to proud to use them if it will help me bag the bird.
3. - Ive killed a lot of birds without them but I wont discount there value in some of the places places that I hunt (big open country). 

I used a blind for the first time last year when I talked my wife into hunting with me- We had a bird roosted in a tree  in the middle of a wide open field (about a 70 acre field) and we had no real way to hunt him (no cover aside from that tree he was in) so I put out a pop up blind late that night and we snuck back in early the next a.m.... It was effective.

Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: ghillie on March 11, 2011, 09:01:58 AM
shotgun hunting have never used a blind...have used decoys...depends on the situation and the land or terrain..

bowhunting....I use a blind and deks...SOMEDAY i would like to try to kill one with a longbow and no blind...now that sounds like a challenge
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: FireDoc on March 11, 2011, 12:18:08 PM
1. Why do you use them?
 
2.  Do you ever see yourself getting away from using either one or both?

3.  Do you feel you need them to be successful at killing turkeys?   


For me;

1. I only use a blind for turkey hunting if my 7 year old daughter, or my wife is with me. I look forward to the day when my little one can run-n-gun with me, and be able to set up quickly as well with limited movement once set up can occur.  :D

2. Although while racking my brain here, I cannot recall shooting any of my birds over a decoy, I suppose there will always be one in my vest. I have one of everything else in there, might as well have one of those in there too!

3. Nope, I don't feel I need either one. Matter of fact, I prefer to move in real close and then set up quickly something that neither one of those items allows me to do.
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: shad309 on March 11, 2011, 12:30:42 PM
I use the blind with my kids- my son is 8 and it's hard to keep him focused let alone to be still for more than 5 seconds. When he is with I will use dekes as I feel it helps take attention away from the blind and hopefully we see more birds?

If I'm alone I dont use either one.
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: barry on March 11, 2011, 03:18:20 PM
 
1. Why do you use them?
I'm in wheelchair and it's hard to hide one of these babies. I do not use a tent blind, tried it once and hated it - can't hear out of it. I use camo burlap draped in front of me. As for dekes, I hunt fields and open areas now because of the chair and dekes help draw in some birds. 

2.  Do you ever see yourself getting away from using either one or both?
I doubt it. I worked how to be successful again at turkey hunting after my accident left me paralyzed. I figure me being in a chair is giving the bird an advantage to begin with.

3.  Do you feel you need them to be successful at killing turkeys?   
Probably so. Even though I have killed birds without dekes since my injury. I used to run-n-gun the mountains and hardwoods before I was injured and I killed birds then. I'll challenge anyone to put themselves in my position and be consistently successful on mature spring birds.
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: Neill_Prater on March 11, 2011, 03:32:45 PM
Quote from: barry on March 11, 2011, 03:18:20 PM
 
1. Why do you use them?
I'm in wheelchair and it's hard to hide one of these babies. I do not use a tent blind, tried it once and hated it - can't hear out of it. I use camo burlap draped in front of me. As for dekes, I hunt fields and open areas now because of the chair and dekes help draw in some birds. 

2.  Do you ever see yourself getting away from using either one or both?
I doubt it. I worked how to be successful again at turkey hunting after my accident left me paralyzed. I figure me being in a chair is giving the bird an advantage to begin with.

3.  Do you feel you need them to be successful at killing turkeys?   
Probably so. Even though I have killed birds without dekes since my injury. I used to run-n-gun the mountains and hardwoods before I was injured and I killed birds then. I'll challenge anyone to put themselves in my position and be consistently successful on mature spring birds.

Way to go! Neill  :anim_25:
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: Dan Mallia on March 12, 2011, 10:42:45 AM
I use a decoy all the time just because I'm a creature of habit and I really like the look of my DSD's  :wav:

But seriously, and this is all me, I figure if I'm calling at them, I'd like em to see what's making all that noise.  I hunt open areas a bunch and figure it helps.

Same thing with the blind.  I like being able to move around, can't sit still that long and I like being able to move a bit, makes all day hunts way easier.

To each his own. 
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: pabirdsmasher on March 13, 2011, 05:18:47 PM
Just don't need  them  to kill longbeards anymore. :fud: :newmascot:
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: justjohn on March 13, 2011, 10:37:36 PM
When you get old and it's hard to get up off the ground a chair in a blind is great to have. Yes I use decoys bnecause I want to.
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: doublegobble on March 14, 2011, 10:17:04 AM
I have used both all of the time in the previous seasons:
1. Because I was hunting with a bow. I tried 2 seasons without a blind and never was able to get the bow drawn on a turkey without them catching me.
2. I hunt quite a few areas where you sit out in the middle of a wide open field with absolutely no cover what so ever.
3. My kids were hunting.
This will be my 1st year going back to full time shotgun hunting so most of the time I won't use a blind. I will use it if I end up hunting my pasture setups.
Title: Re: ? For Deke And Blind Users
Post by: allchokedup on March 14, 2011, 10:48:27 AM
I use both. Why?
I enjoy having that old gobbler come to my decoys and fall in love, I just get a big kick out of it. Do I need one to kill a bird, no, Just love that part of turkey hunting.
As far as using a blind, I don't use them all the time, it depends where I'm setting up. I like the ability to set there and have a good time with my hunting partner and have a coffee break without being seen. It'a just a different part of hunting than when I run and gun. Bottom line....I just want to enjoy my time in the woods and turkey hunting. I love to kill a bird as much as anyone, but , its the joy of being there thats most important to me.