I just cut open a Nitro shell which was 1 7/8 oz of #7 shot
The total was precisely 646 pellets.
According to the pellet count chart on this forum,,,,
#7 lead ( 1 7/8 oz ) would be 548
#7 Hevi-13 ( 1 7/8 oz ) would be 516
#7 Fed HW ( 1 7/8 oz ) would be 407
So , how can 1 7/8 oz of nitro be 646 ?? (100 more pellets than lead )
The answer is obviously,,,, you guys are shooting something much smaller than #7
I've never shot nitro but always heard there 7's were really 7.5's, I bet they shot good patterns though.
As long as they work for the guys that shoot them, I guess that's all that matters.
The answer is obvious... Nitro is stuffing MORE than 1 7/8oz of shot in there! ;D
I don't shot Nitros, but curious to know what that payload of 646 pellets weighed.
Quote from: archdriver on March 18, 2013, 12:46:13 PM
I just cut open a Nitro shell which was 1 7/8 oz of #7 shot
The total was precisely 646 pellets.
According to the pellet count chart on this forum,,,,
#7 lead ( 1 7/8 oz ) would be 548
#7 Hevi-13 ( 1 7/8 oz ) would be 516
#7 Fed HW ( 1 7/8 oz ) would be 407
So , how can 1 7/8 oz of nitro be 646 ?? (100 more pellets than lead )
The answer is obviously,,,, you guys are shooting something much smaller than #7
It could be do to the shot cup design and specific hulls they use in order to get that extra shot in there.
Please weigh those 646 pellets and see if they are 1 7/8 oz.
Maybe the Nitro's are smaller than 7 shot? I know they both kill turkeys so thats all that matters.
Quote from: FloppinTom on March 18, 2013, 07:18:13 PM
Please weigh those 646 pellets and see if they are 1 7/8 oz.
I threw those pellets away,,, but I will gladly open another shell and take pictures and weigh the shot load.....
I dont mind killing turkeys with anything, but I want friends to know that all those pellet counts in a circle, might not be the same as another brand.... Apples and tangerines.
Might take a couple of days , but I will do it soon.
7.5's 8's 9's and 10's are how you get those pellet #'s
Quote from: archdriver on March 18, 2013, 08:11:46 PM
Quote from: FloppinTom on March 18, 2013, 07:18:13 PM
Please weigh those 646 pellets and see if they are 1 7/8 oz.
I threw those pellets away,,, but I will gladly open another shell and take pictures and weigh the shot load.....
I dont mind killing turkeys with anything, but I want friends to know that all those pellet counts in a circle, might not be the same as another brand.... Apples and tangerines.
Might take a couple of days , but I will do it soon.
Looking forward to it.
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For years Nitro has been the whipping boy of turkey hunting internet - almost every time the thread turns south in short order
For what its worth , they will kill a turkey , and nobody is forcing anyone to use or not use them -
I use them with Great results !!!They are turkey killers :newmascot:
I shoot the Nitro 3" triplex load of 4,5&7 and they out shoot (pattern density, consistency and range) than Hevi 13 #7. I've never cut into one and probably never will so I won't be counting and don't care how many pellets are in there as I know what can be expected.
I have cut into several Hevi 13 as well as the old Remington Heavy Shot and was surprised that the pellet counts were all over the place as the pellet sizes varied so much. As a matter of fact a lot of the pellets looked like welding platter and you'd be hard pressed to find a half dozen round pellets in those early years. This maybe a reason I won't open one of my coveted Nitro's or it could be their price.
Here is everything from a new shell.... however, dont exactly know how I am gonna get them
weighed accurately. maybe a kitchen scale , but dont know how accurate that will be.
Let me be clear,,,, I am not diminishing the effectiveness of you guys that shoot nitro's.
It is clear that a lot of people love them and I am cool with whatever anybody wants to hun with. It bugs me , however that Nitro can advertise something and then ship something
which does not conform as specified. Pure and simple,,, if something is heavier than
lead, there will be fewer pellets for the same weight and size pellet.
People who shoot amazingly dense patterns should realize that the pattern coverage
is a result of many more smaller pellets than another brand. so, of course it prints
a dense pattern with fewer holes and looks good on paper. Obviously, the smaller shot
will penetrate thru paper target, but do those smaller shot have the penetration that you think. There are a lot of normal looking size shot in the load that will certainly kill
a turkey.
Yes, no one is forcing anybody to shoot or not shoot nitro's . People, however should have
an accurate understanding of what they are shooting. In the case of nitro,,,, the number of pellets is significantly higher than what you would think.
shell used
652 pellets counted. all connected double shot were counted as one pellet.
some fed HW #7's pellets next to Nitro's #7's.
As stated, all double connected shot was counted as one pellet
Dont throw these away I'll take them
Dont know how precise this weight is coming from a postal scale. I did get a .1 oz reading
from the coffee filter by itself. so, I guess , 1.9 oz is a close approximation of the shot load.
stated as 1 7/8 oz. Should be convincing enough to say Nitro is fairly accurate with the stated
shot load.
Quote from: archdriver on March 19, 2013, 12:31:29 PM
Dont know how precise this weight is coming from a postal scale. I did get a .1 oz reading
from the coffee filter by itself. so, I guess , 1.9 oz is a close approximation of the shot load.
stated as 1 7/8 oz. Should be convincing enough to say Nitro is fairly accurate with the stated
shot load.
Put the filter on the scale alone and then hit zero. Then add shot to get weight of just the shot. Thanks!
What matters to me is that they will kill a turkey!!! And they do it in short order!!!
What matters is getting what u pay for and that's the bottom line. A friend and I have had some run around with this matter also and Im done with nitro shells and all my hunting buddies also. Bought 50 megas in 12 gauge last year and they are putting up bad counts. These shell have been shot out of the same gun that was proven with megas out of a different batch. Consistency isn't there in my opion. And when u pay 7 bucks or more a shell I don't think you should have to constaly check quality.
Maybe get a pair of calipers at harbor freight and measure the diameter ?
If you are not happy with those I will take them right off your hands - I know what to do with them
I will also take any unwanted nitro shells
QuoteIf you are not happy with those I will take them right off your hands - I know what to do with them
I'm sorry, but that is funny. :TooFunny:
I'm not a Nitro user because of the cost, and the shipping. They are very expensive to shoot.
I have HTL that I bought back when it was $4 + tax per shell. When it went to $6 per shell, I abandoned ship. Lead is looking good to me these days.
Those will be easy to trade or sell.
Me too!! I will take them off your hands
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