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Title: disgusted!
Post by: bayou country on March 17, 2012, 05:49:48 PM
Went up to Alabama for opening day and started working a mature tom that was hammering on the roost and then pretty much gobbled at anything for the next two hours. We got him to come within about 60 yards, but then he clammed up and he vanished.

Day two, more of the same lots and lots of gobbling, but he wouldn't come closer than about 60 or so yards. He looked like a nice mature bird too probably 20+ pounds.

Day three, got even closer to where he was firing away up on the roost. Got all set up when the bird started to PUT PUT and then BOOM! Some pice of trash snuck in from the opposite side and SHOT HIM ON THE ROOST...... This person is a disgrace. What do you get out of this?

That old Tom deserved better than to be killed by an ignorant outlaw.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: R AJ on March 17, 2012, 06:01:21 PM
He got the bird and you did not. I don't care for roost shooters either. I know one old timer who had to be at work early and could not hunt in the afternoons due to game laws.

He was good at roosting birds in the afternoon and slipping in on them the next morning. This is actually pretty hard to do. This was his way of getting his 3 bird limit at the time.

I know that this method is frowned upon but it was one way to put meat on the table. Baiting is another sore subject with me and it happens too often, even to the point of keeping birds on their property instead of yours.
I hope you get one soon.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: Flydown on March 17, 2012, 06:13:40 PM
Yep,That sucks and is a very CHEAP way to kill a turkey. On the bright side it does sound like you had a very good couple of days in Bama! Good luck the rest of your season.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: remmy1187 on March 17, 2012, 07:40:53 PM
Sorry to hear that,  that really sucks bad.   :angry9:  Dont understand how people can do that, where is the satisfaction in that nonsense.  Good luck to ya!
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: Bustabeak on March 17, 2012, 07:58:59 PM
Sorry to hear that for you. We had one hammering opening day coming to us. Something scared him and they flew back up about 50 yards from us. Easily we could  sneak over and shoot him right out of the tree but.... What fun is that? I just don't understand why someone would do that. Again, sorry to hear that for you.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: Crappiepro on March 17, 2012, 08:09:08 PM
That does suck!! I dont understand the joy from shooting a roosted bird either. I think I would have had to say something to the guy! I really don't see any sport in taking a shot like that.
I bet the other guy knew you were there and rushed to get it first.
Good luck with the rest of your season, sounds like your in the right spot anyway.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: Fullfan on March 17, 2012, 08:24:43 PM
Yes sir that does suck, sounds like you were hunting in PA.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: turkey_slayer on March 17, 2012, 08:44:12 PM
Had that happen one time to a bird I had been chasing for a while. Roosted him the evening before and for setup close the next morning. Gave a soft tree call and he started going ballistic. About 10 minutes later BOOM and I heard him crash to the ground. The worse feeling came over me then I got pissed but left to avoid a confrontation. That's about as bad as someone getting in between ya and the bird and shooting it when they know dang good and well you were setup on the bird.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: Flydown on March 17, 2012, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: RAJ on March 17, 2012, 06:01:21 PM
He got the bird and you did not. I don't care for roost shooters either. I know one old timer who had to be at work early and could not hunt in the afternoons due to game laws.

He was good at roosting birds in the afternoon and slipping in on them the next morning. This is actually pretty hard to do. This was his way of getting his 3 bird limit at the time.

I know that this method is frowned upon but it was one way to put meat on the table. Baiting is another sore subject with me and it happens too often, even to the point of keeping birds on their property instead of yours.
I hope you get one soon.

I have read your comment a few times and I still do not understand what you are trying to say, and before I trash talk your way of thinking I just wanted you to explain yourself a little better. You said " I don't care for roost shooters either" But then you said "I know that this method is frowned upon but it was one way to put meat on the table."     I'm sorry but I'm confused. It would be easier to go to the grocery store and buy some potted meat and crackers,,,,,,,,Its cheaper than shotgun shells and gas. :begging: :begging:
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: Cutt on March 17, 2012, 09:06:53 PM
Not sure what others get from shooting them off the roost? Happens here all too often also, can't tell you how many birds I have heard in the trees over the years, followed by a gunshot before you know they are on the ground?  Hopefully your luck will change?
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: timbrhuntr on March 17, 2012, 09:08:22 PM
Ya that was confusing. Especially the part about it being  pretty hard to do. Last year in Michigan 3 mornings in a row and one evening I could have shot a bird on the roost didn't seem to hard. Not as hard as watching them flydown and proceed to go the other way.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: pseshooter300 on March 17, 2012, 09:36:38 PM
Sorry to here that I hope your season is better as it goes on. Keep your head up
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: rawalley on March 17, 2012, 09:54:50 PM
I think he means that it is legal, he does not agree with the method, but to each his own.
(I am strongly against roost shooting so dont try and twist my words.)
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: Roostem33 on March 18, 2012, 05:08:32 PM
Just don't see what the fun in that would be! I believe I would just go to the store and get something to eat. Jmo!
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: swamp_bird89 on March 18, 2012, 06:37:15 PM
Quote from: rawalley on March 17, 2012, 09:54:50 PM
I think he means that it is legal, he does not agree with the method, but to each his own.
(I am strongly against roost shooting so dont try and twist my words.)

Agreed
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: hillmp63 on March 18, 2012, 07:48:46 PM
Someone shot a turkey and it's not your chosen way to shoot it. Get over it, no laws or regulations broken.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: R AJ on March 18, 2012, 08:15:04 PM
Quote from: Flydown on March 17, 2012, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: RAJ on March 17, 2012, 06:01:21 PM
He got the bird and you did not. I don't care for roost shooters either. I know one old timer who had to be at work early and could not hunt in the afternoons due to game laws.

He was good at roosting birds in the afternoon and slipping in on them the next morning. This is actually pretty hard to do. This was his way of getting his 3 bird limit at the time.

I know that this method is frowned upon but it was one way to put meat on the table. Baiting is another sore subject with me and it happens too often, even to the point of keeping birds on their property instead of yours.
I hope you get one soon.

I have read your comment a few times and I still do not understand what you are trying to say, and before I trash talk your way of thinking I just wanted you to explain yourself a little better. You said " I don't care for roost shooters either" But then you said "I know that this method is frowned upon but it was one way to put meat on the table."     I'm sorry but I'm confused. It would be easier to go to the grocery store and buy some potted meat and crackers,,,,,,,,Its cheaper than shotgun shells and gas. :begging: :begging:

I am simply saying what the person did to kill wild turkeys; call it stalking if you will. I wonder how much better it is to crawl down a ditch and then pop up and shoot one in a chufa patch than shooting a roosted bird. I can't help what the guy did and I said that I do not condone this , so what the heck else is there for me to explain.
This is what he did , not me. If you are still miffed just delete my post , fine by me.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: cannonball on March 18, 2012, 09:01:00 PM
Better luck next time. Keep after them!
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: bayou country on March 18, 2012, 09:42:45 PM
Quote from: hillmp63 on March 18, 2012, 07:48:46 PM
Someone shot a turkey and it's not your chosen way to shoot it. Get over it, no laws or regulations broken.

No laws broken huh? How about being an ethical hunter? Anybody who does this is a disgrace.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: Eric Gregg on March 18, 2012, 11:07:30 PM
This is getting heated :TrainWreck1:
Let me remind everyone that it was this very approach hunters used in the mid 1900's that almost made the wild turkey extinct. Sometimes what is ethical isn't necessarily what is lawful. As sportsmen we are constantly under scrutiny by anti-hunters, animal rights activist, and the many people who want to take guns away because they think that we are too stupid to have one. Let's not prove them right by our actions........
If you can't call a turkey up....learn how. I am busting my butt every year to kill my first turkey, and when I finally get to haul one out on my back you better believe that I will have earned it.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: rawalley on March 19, 2012, 05:14:07 AM
Quote from: bayou country on March 18, 2012, 09:42:45 PM
Quote from: hillmp63 on March 18, 2012, 07:48:46 PM
Someone shot a turkey and it's not your chosen way to shoot it. Get over it, no laws or regulations broken.

No laws broken huh? How about being an ethical hunter? Anybody who does this is a disgrace.
This is about the dumbest thing I have ever read.  I highly doubt that anyone who takes the time to read a turkey hunting forum everyday would be a roost shooter, but if he or anyone else is then I have no right to judge him.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: Gobble! on March 19, 2012, 07:45:39 AM
Someone said the e word
:TrainWreck1:
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: Sherrell on March 19, 2012, 08:25:20 AM
Sorry you got messed up...I know the feeling.years ago I roosted a bird and that is where the disaster started.the next morning I set up in the swamp long before first light.as it started to crack light I gave a tree yelp with my voice and the bird gobbled thirty yards in front of me from a old cypress.I had messed up and got in too close in the dark.as it got lighter I found I was in the middle of the roost with a juvenile gobbler roosted in the cypress tree I was against and several hens in other trees.watched as the bird walked,gobbled and displayed from his limb.experience told me that when flydown time came he would no doubt glide out on the fern flat and there'd be no way to call him back within range.I was telling myself that he should be glad it was me set up on him rather than one of the local roost shooters as I never needed nor will ever have to shoot one out of a tree.he gobbled 6 to 7 more times when the swamp rings with a shotgun blast that nearly caused me to jump a foot off the ground.I watch in horror as my bird hits every limb coming down.a guy steps out from behind a cypress tree to lay claim to his prize,only problem is,he doesn't know I'm setting thirty yards from the tree.he had beat me into the swamp and was just waiting for the roost to get some light.with me not using a flashlight on the way in and keeping quiet,he never knew I had came in.

I will go into no other detail about this incident since this is a family site,but one thing you can rest assured of is he will never de-limb another bird and may have just gave up on turkeys all together!!!
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: HunterMan on March 19, 2012, 09:21:42 AM
There is a differance between a Turkey Hunter and a Turkey Killer
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: VA_Birdhunter on March 19, 2012, 09:43:39 AM
Sorry this has happened....unfortunately this has become a norm for some these days.  The numbers game have taken over what its all about the "Hunt" and the "Experience".  Some are so over taken in having to be able to show of a bird they have bagged even though they know they did not win the battle in the woods and I would say them shooting it off the roost will never come up in there conversation when showing it off.    I do hope I never get to that point in my life I half to do this....I've been set up many times where I could have shot a gobbler off a limb but chose to follow what my dad taught me...and that was respect and ethics.   To  each there own is right.....but I don't half to agree with it and I don't......I will go save some money and buy a butter ball before I do that!

God Bless
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: lightsoutcalls on March 19, 2012, 10:03:58 AM
Quote from: hillmp63 on March 18, 2012, 07:48:46 PM
Someone shot a turkey and it's not your chosen way to shoot it. Get over it, no laws or regulations broken.


Wow.  What a way to introduce yourself on a turkey hunting forum.  A wise man once said, "you never get a second chance to make a first impression."

You ever get the feeling you are being watched?  In this case, it may be well founded.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: Sherrell on March 19, 2012, 10:13:42 AM
Quote from: hillmp63 on March 18, 2012, 07:48:46 PM
Someone shot a turkey and it's not your chosen way to shoot it. Get over it, no laws or regulations broken.

I suppose you are a newbie to the art of turkey hunting as well.

We stress a art here...de-limbing is or never will be a art!
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: eaglea1 on March 19, 2012, 10:33:26 AM
Quote from: TeocTom on March 18, 2012, 11:07:30 PM
This is getting heated :TrainWreck1:
Let me remind everyone that it was this very approach hunters used in the mid 1900's that almost made the wild turkey extinct. Sometimes what is ethical isn't necessarily what is lawful. As sportsmen we are constantly under scrutiny by anti-hunters, animal rights activist, and the many people who want to take guns away because they think that we are too stupid to have one. Let's not prove them right by our actions........
If you can't call a turkey up....learn how. I am busting my butt every year to kill my first turkey, and when I finally get to haul one out on my back you better believe that I will have earned it.


You said it, I totally agree with this.. Turkey hunting should be just that, and not turkey shooting
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: DirtNap647 on March 19, 2012, 11:02:04 AM
no fun in that
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: rawalley on March 19, 2012, 08:13:45 PM
Quote from: lightsoutcalls on March 19, 2012, 10:03:58 AM
Quote from: hillmp63 on March 18, 2012, 07:48:46 PM
Someone shot a turkey and it's not your chosen way to shoot it. Get over it, no laws or regulations broken.


Wow.  What a way to introduce yourself on a turkey hunting forum.  A wise man once said, "you never get a second chance to make a first impression."

You ever get the feeling you are being watched?  In this case, it may be well founded.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: bigthunderchicken on March 19, 2012, 08:47:01 PM
just try not to be so upset over it. it happens from time to time. whats even worse is when you get a bird committed and someone slips in between you and the bird and kills him. i myself have never shot one off the limb but i can definitely see where someone new to the sport would do it. you will get on another one and karma will get that guy.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: hwy419 on March 19, 2012, 10:33:51 PM
Quote from: TeocTom on March 18, 2012, 11:07:30 PM
I am busting my butt every year to kill my first turkey, and when I finally get to haul one out on my back you better believe that I will have earned it.

Same boat here. 4th year hunting almost every day of season. Still no bird. It's actually rather embarrassing. But I keep trying. I can get right in the middle of it all, but not even get the first sight of one at the end of my gun barrell. It's gonna feel great when I can carry one out. Heck maybe it'll be tomorrow...
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: rawalley on March 19, 2012, 11:18:16 PM
Quote from: hwy419 on March 19, 2012, 10:33:51 PM
Quote from: TeocTom on March 18, 2012, 11:07:30 PM
I am busting my butt every year to kill my first turkey, and when I finally get to haul one out on my back you better believe that I will have earned it.

Same boat here. 4th year hunting almost every day of season. Still no bird. It's actually rather embarrassing. But I keep trying. I can get right in the middle of it all, but not even get the first sight of one at the end of my gun barrell. It's gonna feel great when I can carry one out. Heck maybe it'll be tomorrow...
You guys keep it up one day it will seem "easy" with everything you've learned during the tough years.
Title: Re: disgusted!
Post by: VA_Birdhunter on March 19, 2012, 11:23:40 PM
Quote from: hwy419 on March 19, 2012, 10:33:51 PM
Quote from: TeocTom on March 18, 2012, 11:07:30 PM
I am busting my butt every year to kill my first turkey, and when I finally get to haul one out on my back you better believe that I will have earned it.

Same boat here. 4th year hunting almost every day of season. Still no bird. It's actually rather embarrassing. But I keep trying. I can get right in the middle of it all, but not even get the first sight of one at the end of my gun barrell. It's gonna feel great when I can carry one out. Heck maybe it'll be tomorrow...


This is what makes turkey hunting turkey hunting.....anyone can go buy a butter ball but it takes time, skill, and patience and a little bit of luck to bag an old gobbler!  Its about winning the battle with that old bird.....and most times I walk away beat down!!  BOY DO I LOVE IT!!!!! Thank you dear Lord for letting me experience it!!

God Bless