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Title: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: bigdale on February 27, 2012, 08:30:16 PM
As some of you know, and some of you may not, I am a member of the Hevi-shot pro staff. Every month we aquire points for doing various things that promote the company. These points are used to purchase products. I am also an avid turkey hunter and shooter so I like to have the best loads possible, so therefore, I like to keep up with the lot #'s so I know which ones are the best. (with that being said) I ordered 4 boxes of 3.5" 7's last week and they arrived at my house today. I'm looking through them checking the lot numbers, when BAM! It was a box of 300514, and I am well aware that these were from the good run of 2010 loads. It felt like I had found a treasure. I marked "GOLD" on the box with a sharpie and put them in the safe. Will I be shooting these at paper??? Absolutely not!!! These will only be shot at glowing red heads.  :you_rock:


Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: gersus on February 27, 2012, 08:36:37 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: SKFOOTER on February 27, 2012, 11:12:12 PM
Quote from: bigdale on February 27, 2012, 08:30:16 PM
As some of you know, and some of you may not, I am a member of the Hevi-shot pro staff. Every month we aquire points for doing various things that promote the company. These points are used to purchase products. I am also an avid turkey hunter and shooter so I like to have the best loads possible, so therefore, I like to keep up with the lot #'s so I know which ones are the best. (with that being said) I ordered 4 boxes of 3.5" 7's last week and they arrived at my house today. I'm looking through them checking the lot numbers, when BAM! It was a box of 300514, and I am well aware that these were from the good run of 2010 loads. It felt like I had found a treasure. I marked "GOLD" on the box with a sharpie and put them in the safe. Will I be shooting these at paper??? Absolutely not!!! These will only be shot at glowing red heads.  :you_rock:



What was the Lot # of the other 3 boxes??
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: st8tman on February 27, 2012, 11:33:33 PM
No offense to you Big Dale or anyone affiliated with Hevi-Shot, but to me it is a Sad Statement when one has to rely on certain lot numbers or "batches" if you will, to insure optimal performance from a given load. With the premium price that are charged for these shells by the manufacturer, uniform performance from lot to lot is the least hunters should expect for there hard earned dollars. Just think if everytime you cruised down the Interstate at 70 mph, and you bought four new Michelins you had to "Hope" they came from a "Good Lot Number"!
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: chipper on February 28, 2012, 05:46:33 AM
That's right!
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: bowhunter32 on February 28, 2012, 06:54:44 AM
aint it the truth....
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: bigdale on February 28, 2012, 07:22:43 AM
Quote from: SKFOOTER on February 27, 2012, 11:12:12 PM
Quote from: bigdale on February 27, 2012, 08:30:16 PM
As some of you know, and some of you may not, I am a member of the Hevi-shot pro staff. Every month we aquire points for doing various things that promote the company. These points are used to purchase products. I am also an avid turkey hunter and shooter so I like to have the best loads possible, so therefore, I like to keep up with the lot #'s so I know which ones are the best. (with that being said) I ordered 4 boxes of 3.5" 7's last week and they arrived at my house today. I'm looking through them checking the lot numbers, when BAM! It was a box of 300514, and I am well aware that these were from the good run of 2010 loads. It felt like I had found a treasure. I marked "GOLD" on the box with a sharpie and put them in the safe. Will I be shooting these at paper??? Absolutely not!!! These will only be shot at glowing red heads.  :you_rock:



What was the Lot # of the other 3 boxes??
300786. I'm not sure about these, haven't got to shoot them yet
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: bigdale on February 28, 2012, 07:35:28 AM
Quote from: st8tman on February 27, 2012, 11:33:33 PM
No offense to you Big Dale or anyone affiliated with Hevi-Shot, but to me it is a Sad Statement when one has to rely on certain lot numbers or "batches" if you will, to insure optimal performance from a given load. With the premium price that are charged for these shells by the manufacturer, uniform performance from lot to lot is the least hunters should expect for there hard earned dollars. Just think if everytime you cruised down the Interstate at 70 mph, and you bought four new Michelins you had to "Hope" they came from a "Good Lot Number"!
No offense taken. These are things that are beyond my control. I do feel like hevishot has corrected the problem. I shot some of this years loads yesterday and got 274 out of a dirty barrel in my SBE2. I was very happy with these numbers. I don't believe I could ever get those numbers out of any other factory load on the market. As far as the price increase, everything in the world is getting higher. I wish it wasn't so, but it's a fact of life that we can't control. Every component of the load has gone up in price, tungsten being the biggest impact. These increases have forced the company to increase their prices in order to maintain profits. The changing of loads was a mistake on the company's part, they realized how unhappy people were about the change and I feel like they have corrected the problem. If any of you ever have any questions, feel free to ask. You will not offend me with any of your concerns.
Thanks
Dale Sexton
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: Oconeeguy on February 28, 2012, 08:20:15 AM
Good to know they have corrected the problem. I trust that also means they understand the reason for the root cause of the Quality Control failure and fixed THAT so that the problem won't be repeated.
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: Turkhunter on February 28, 2012, 09:24:22 AM
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Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: bbcoach on February 28, 2012, 09:35:19 AM
Dale,
Do you know what the actual ROOT CAUSE of the loss of performance was attributed to?  Several of the guys that dissected shells thought it was a change in the wads that Hevi had switched to or was it a combination of different components or manufacturing process?
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: bigdale on February 28, 2012, 10:21:45 AM
Quote from: bbcoach on February 28, 2012, 09:35:19 AM
Dale,
Do you know what the actual ROOT CAUSE of the loss of performance was attributed to?  Several of the guys that dissected shells thought it was a change in the wads that Hevi had switched to or was it a combination of different components or manufacturing process?
Well, let me tell you something about the elite guys of this forum. If they say that the wad changed, then the wad was changed. Their is a world of good info on this site, thanks to the guys that do the extensive research. I will take their word over anyone's, because they know what they are talking about. I know alot of you were lied to about the change, and that problem was also resolved, but I'm not gonna get into that. Listen to what they tell you, they are the backbone of this forum. Thanks for all the good info fellas
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: SKFOOTER on February 28, 2012, 11:19:19 AM
Quote from: bigdale on February 28, 2012, 07:35:28 AM
Quote from: st8tman on February 27, 2012, 11:33:33 PM
No offense to you Big Dale or anyone affiliated with Hevi-Shot, but to me it is a Sad Statement when one has to rely on certain lot numbers or "batches" if you will, to insure optimal performance from a given load. With the premium price that are charged for these shells by the manufacturer, uniform performance from lot to lot is the least hunters should expect for there hard earned dollars. Just think if everytime you cruised down the Interstate at 70 mph, and you bought four new Michelins you had to "Hope" they came from a "Good Lot Number"!
No offense taken. These are things that are beyond my control. I do feel like hevishot has corrected the problem. I shot some of this years loads yesterday and got 274 out of a dirty barrel in my SBE2. I was very happy with these numbers. I don't believe I could ever get those numbers out of any other factory load on the market. As far as the price increase, everything in the world is getting higher. I wish it wasn't so, but it's a fact of life that we can't control. Every component of the load has gone up in price, tungsten being the biggest impact. These increases have forced the company to increase their prices in order to maintain profits. The changing of loads was a mistake on the company's part, they realized how unhappy people were about the change and I feel like they have corrected the problem. If any of you ever have any questions, feel free to ask. You will not offend me with any of your concerns.
Thanks
Dale Sexton
Dale, what is the Lot # of this years loads??
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: Woodsman4God on February 28, 2012, 11:28:47 AM
Is there a place to look up Lot #s to find out if it was one of the suspect lots?
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: eaglea1 on February 28, 2012, 12:34:29 PM
So, lets say I go into a store like Cabelas this weekend. Are there any certain lot numbers that I could or should be looking for? What for example is the given lead time between whats been tested out there and whats actually on the shelves?  Thanks for the info. :smiley-char092:
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: bigdale on February 28, 2012, 12:43:50 PM
I believe it was mainly one or two runs last year that shot poorly. Help me out with this guys, but I believe they were the 3004xx that were giving the trouble. I wouldnt worry so much about getting these at a big store such as cabelas, because they are likey long gone. Not sure what this years lot numbers are but the ones I have shot have done well. Some of the other guys can probably tell you some of this years numbers. Hope this helps
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: SKFOOTER on February 28, 2012, 01:18:07 PM
What about the 3 inch loads?  Lot #200788 was the good patterning loads from 2010.  And do Lot #'s always increase in number??  There are several posts on this site about ordering and receiving the 3 inch Hevi #7s with Lot #'s beginning with 101.
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: reynolds243 on February 28, 2012, 01:36:20 PM
most of the 3" i have gotten over the past year and even as recent as a month ago starts with 100
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: bigdale on February 28, 2012, 02:18:47 PM
I'm not sure about the lot numbers on the 3" loads, you will have to ask the 3" shooters on here. I am only familiar with the 3.5" loads because that is what I prefer to shoot. With the 3.5's, it seems like the numbers always go up.
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: SKFOOTER on February 28, 2012, 02:43:04 PM
Quote from: reynolds243 on February 28, 2012, 01:36:20 PM
most of the 3" i have gotten over the past year and even as recent as a month ago starts with 100
And how did they pattern compared to the Lot #200788 which was spectacular??
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: gophert on February 28, 2012, 02:45:05 PM
I can tell you for a fact that the Hevi 13 3.5" 2 1/4 oz #7's with lot# 300325  are GOLD!

I purchased 4 boxes in the fall of 2010, 3 of the boxes had the above lot# and one had 300324.

My 26" barrel got over 300 in a 10" at 40
My 23" barrel got 280 in a 10" at 40.

Thank goodness I still have 3 full boxes.  :z-guntootsmiley:

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: Borden811 on February 28, 2012, 02:51:49 PM
How about 300524?
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: strutstopper on February 28, 2012, 03:01:18 PM
I only had 2 and a half boxes of the 7s with lot # 300325 left so I ordered 4 more boxes. I got them in about a month ago and they all had lot # 300524. I then heard that hevi shells price was about to go up so I ordered 10 more boxes. They came in about two weeks ago. All ten boxes of the shells are lot # 300514. I didn't know the 300514 shells were good until I read this thread. I'm a little excited now  ;D .
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: gophert on February 28, 2012, 03:07:09 PM
Quote from: Borden811 on February 28, 2012, 02:51:49 PM
How about 300524?

Hard to say unless you have a 2010 shell to compare it to out of the same gun and set up.  Lot comparisons are not very scientific or conclusive when comparing what other people shot out of their gun.  My suggestion is to buy 3 boxes with the same lot# and find the best setup with that shell and leave it alone or handload your own.  

I do know that it was early 2011 when the "bad lot" was found.  Somewhere on here I read that someone from HeviShot finally admitted to a change in components for the 2011 shell, but never told what Lot# that started with.
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: gophert on February 28, 2012, 03:19:24 PM
Quote from: strutstopper on February 28, 2012, 03:01:18 PM
I only had 2 and a half boxes of the 7s with lot # 300325 left so I ordered 4 more boxes. I got them in about a month ago and they all had lot # 300524. I then heard that hevi shells price was about to go up so I ordered 10 more boxes. They came in about two weeks ago. All ten boxes of the shells are lot # 300514. I didn't know the 300514 shells were good until I read this thread. I'm a little excited now  ;D .

You could really provide the site great info if you would shoot all 3 Lot#'s out of the same set-up.  We know the 300325 is good.  I have not seen proof that the 300514 are good.   If there is a comparison, please post the link.  THANKS! 
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: strutstopper on February 28, 2012, 03:25:51 PM
Quote from: gophert on February 28, 2012, 03:19:24 PM
Quote from: strutstopper on February 28, 2012, 03:01:18 PM
I only had 2 and a half boxes of the 7s with lot # 300325 left so I ordered 4 more boxes. I got them in about a month ago and they all had lot # 300524. I then heard that hevi shells price was about to go up so I ordered 10 more boxes. They came in about two weeks ago. All ten boxes of the shells are lot # 300514. I didn't know the 300514 shells were good until I read this thread. I'm a little excited now  ;D .

You could really provide the site great info if you would shoot all 3 Lot#'s out of the same set-up.  We know the 300325 is good.  I have not seen proof that the 300514 are good.   If there is a comparison, please post the link.  THANKS! 

Yes the 300325 are very good shells (320-330 at 40 with my 870). I will try to shoot a shell from the other two lot #s tommorrow if the wind isn't blowing too hard and if its not raining.
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: Borden811 on February 28, 2012, 05:55:40 PM
Please do test them! I have 3 boxes left of the 300324 lot, and I just bought 8 boxes more, and they were the 300524. I would love to see how they compare to each other, until I can make it to the range to test them in my own set up. Tahnks in advance!
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: Gooserbat on February 29, 2012, 01:31:00 AM
I have 2 boxes of 300530, and 1 box of 300509. I hope these are good its going to be my first year shooting hevi shot.
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: strutstopper on February 29, 2012, 09:29:29 AM
The wind is suppose to blow 20 mph plus all day today. It's not looking like I'll be able to shoot.
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: Longshanks on February 29, 2012, 09:39:30 AM
The only lot numbers that i have heard are bad are the 3.5 loads ending in 400.  3004XX.  The 3in loads have remained consistent for me in 3/2/7 and 3/2/6.  Last year i was looking around for 3.5/7's and ran across a huge stock of them at Woods and Water in AL. Every box ended in 400.  Thanks to this website i didnt buy any. :thanks:
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: strutstopper on March 01, 2012, 12:37:17 PM
Results here

http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,19518.0.html
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: shadetree callers on March 01, 2012, 01:00:35 PM
 I was a devoted Hevi-shot user when they first came out . Even though it felt like you were throwing dollar bills at the targets ! Then I started getting terrible patterns so I switched to a new brand . I for one don't want to risk a crippling shot or a miss on Batch #s . Every shooter should be able to pick up ANY box from their favorite manufacturer and get consistent results EVERY time . I now shoot Winchester Extended Range and they are incredible . After a gobbler does the Winchester backflip, they usually never move again . Not taking chances that I might get lucky and buy a box of Hevi's that were loaded right . No thanks !
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: Frank_T on March 12, 2012, 09:36:50 PM
I got my order in a few days ago . Both boxes lot  300514 . Wished I ordered more if these are known to be that good !
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: DirtNap647 on March 12, 2012, 10:07:43 PM
$6 a shell shouldnt have to look for lot numbers
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: Frank_T on March 12, 2012, 10:26:42 PM
Quote from: MrB0000M on March 12, 2012, 10:07:43 PM
$6 a shell shouldnt have to look for lot numbers

Yeah that is pretty steep for a shell . Up north here though  50 bucks in shells will last me probably 5 seasons . If I hadn't seen the hoopla on lot numbers here I wouldn't have even checked them . Would  have just patterned them like any other shell I try .
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: archery1 on March 13, 2012, 06:07:36 AM
Quote from: st8tman on February 27, 2012, 11:33:33 PM
No offense to you Big Dale or anyone affiliated with Hevi-Shot, but to me it is a Sad Statement when one has to rely on certain lot numbers or "batches" if you will, to insure optimal performance from a given load. With the premium price that are charged for these shells by the manufacturer, uniform performance from lot to lot is the least hunters should expect for there hard earned dollars. Just think if everytime you cruised down the Interstate at 70 mph, and you bought four new Michelins you had to "Hope" they came from a "Good Lot Number"!
X2
CAN'T AGREE MORE
Title: Re: The UPS man brought me GOLD!!
Post by: Hooks' n' Beards' on March 14, 2012, 01:20:28 PM
Sweet!!