but I picked up some Hevi-13 magnum blends tonight because I got my order in late to Nitro this year. I shoot the Nitro 3 1/2 4x5x7's How good are the Hevi-13's and what kind of patterns should I expect out of my 24' supernova with a Jellyhead? Nitro's performance speak for themself but if the H13's are close I could see switching just for availability purposes.
One thing I forgot to ask. Is the #7 shot a lot better than the mag blend? I notice a lot of you are going to #7.
I haven't shot the Nitros but for me the mag blends don't come close to the 7s...I shoot a Browning Silver with a IC 675...3 1/2, 2 1/4 oz. 7s...The Mag blend pattern at 40 was very spotty. the 7s was a great pattern but I have yet to pattern either at closer ranges...Plan to do so this week...But as far as the question, for me the 7s out do the Mag Blends by far...
Quote from: WVhuntEER on February 21, 2011, 10:17:54 PM
One thing I forgot to ask. Is the #7 shot a lot better than the mag blend? I notice a lot of you are going to #7.
Yes. You will get way better pattern densities with the straight 7's. That's why I like them. I beleive the 7's are the best factory load currently on the market for putting up the best numbers.
Read this. Like I said, for the money the Hevi-13 7's are hard to beat.
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,1360.0.html
thanks guys, they didn't have any 7's but I could order some. Do you think that the #7 Hevi's would compare to the the triplex Nitro's?
Quote from: WVhuntEER on February 21, 2011, 11:23:36 PM
thanks guys, they didn't have any 7's but I could order some. Do you think that the #7 Hevi's would compare to the the triplex Nitro's?
I bet they will be pretty close. I've seen several people on here break 300 with Hevi 7s. My 26" Nova with a jellyhead will do about 275 with them. I think drum shoots a Nova with a 24" barrel and Indian Creek tube and he gets outstanding patterns with the Hevi 7s.
Quote from: WVhuntEER on February 21, 2011, 10:17:54 PM
One thing I forgot to ask. Is the #7 shot a lot better than the mag blend? I notice a lot of you are going to #7.
The straight 7s shoot alot better for me.
The 7's are AWESOME, but the 6's smoke too. Very good products for the money, but I hope the prices don't go up any higher than they already are. H13's advantages over Nitros are greater availability and lower prices. The 6's are always pretty easy to find. However, the 7's aren't stocked everywhere you find the 6's. I wish this would change. I'm tired of seeing H13 4's and 5's on store shelves.
Thanks everyone, sounds like I need to order some #7's! Yeah, I know what you mean about availability. The reason I got the mag blend is because it was the only one in stock.
Quote from: WVhuntEER on February 22, 2011, 09:51:41 AM
Thanks everyone, sounds like I need to order some #7's! Yeah, I know what you mean about availability. The reason I got the mag blend is because it was the only one in stock.
There in stock here. I would order them now to make sure you can get them.
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/department.asp?dept=%41%4D%4D%55%4E%49%54%49%4F%4E&dept2=%53%48%4F%54%53%48%45%4C%4C&dept3=%48%45%56%49%2D%53%48%4F%54&dept4=%48%45%56%49%20%31%33%20%54%55%52%4B%45%59
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 22, 2011, 10:06:42 AM
Quote from: WVhuntEER on February 22, 2011, 09:51:41 AM
Thanks everyone, sounds like I need to order some #7's! Yeah, I know what you mean about availability. The reason I got the mag blend is because it was the only one in stock.
There in stock here. I would order them now to make sure you can get them.
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/department.asp?dept=%41%4D%4D%55%4E%49%54%49%4F%4E&dept2=%53%48%4F%54%53%48%45%4C%4C&dept3=%48%45%56%49%2D%53%48%4F%54&dept4=%48%45%56%49%20%31%33%20%54%55%52%4B%45%59
I ordered mine yesterday they sent me a email saying they are on the way. Thanks for the link never would of thought of midsouth for these shells.
i think that the hevi 13 7's are gonna put a hurtin on Nitros this year and in the future, a box of 5 for $20 - $5 rebate comes down to 3 bucks a shell. Nitros are at least 2x as much per shell and you dont have to wait 3 months like you do for the Nitros. With the 7's most people can get 200 in the 10" all day with the Hevi 13's at 40yds
sure you can get the nitros and put 300 in the 10" ring but all you need is 100 in the 10 to consistently kill turks and the hevi 13 already gets double the minimum and are half the price, you do the math!!!!!!
Quote from: BigPeck215 on February 22, 2011, 09:39:37 PM
i think that the hevi 13 7's are gonna put a hurtin on Nitros this year and in the future, a box of 5 for $20 - $5 rebate comes down to 3 bucks a shell. Nitros are at least 2x as much per shell and you dont have to wait 3 months for the Nitros. With the 7's most people can get 200 in the 10" all day with the Hevi 13's at 40yds
sure you can get the nitros and put 300 in the 10" ring but all you need is 100 in the 10 to consistently kill turks and the hevi 13 already gets double the minimum and are half the price, you do the math!!!!!!
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Quote from: surehuntsalot on February 23, 2011, 10:15:38 PM
Quote from: BigPeck215 on February 22, 2011, 09:39:37 PM
i think that the hevi 13 7's are gonna put a hurtin on Nitros this year and in the future, a box of 5 for $20 - $5 rebate comes down to 3 bucks a shell. Nitros are at least 2x as much per shell and you dont have to wait 3 months for the Nitros. With the 7's most people can get 200 in the 10" all day with the Hevi 13's at 40yds
sure you can get the nitros and put 300 in the 10" ring but all you need is 100 in the 10 to consistently kill turks and the hevi 13 already gets double the minimum and are half the price, you do the math!!!!!!
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I agree. For the money the Hevi-13 #7 loads are the better value
IMO,great shell for the price,but it'll be hard to compare them with NITRO ammo!!! :icon_thumright:
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 24, 2011, 12:45:51 AM
Quote from: surehuntsalot on February 23, 2011, 10:15:38 PM
Quote from: BigPeck215 on February 22, 2011, 09:39:37 PM
i think that the hevi 13 7's are gonna put a hurtin on Nitros this year and in the future, a box of 5 for $20 - $5 rebate comes down to 3 bucks a shell. Nitros are at least 2x as much per shell and you dont have to wait 3 months for the Nitros. With the 7's most people can get 200 in the 10" all day with the Hevi 13's at 40yds
sure you can get the nitros and put 300 in the 10" ring but all you need is 100 in the 10 to consistently kill turks and the hevi 13 already gets double the minimum and are half the price, you do the math!!!!!!
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I agree. For the money the Hevi-13 #7 loads are the better value
Not for me. If I was worried about was wether I was payin $3 bucks a shell versus 6 bucks a shell, i would shoot a high brass pheasant load in number 6. EM is going to have to increase the amount of shot and speed those things up a bit if they want to step up to Nitro.
Comparing the blends to the nitros isn't really doing the Hevi-13 loads justice. Compare the Hevi-13 straight 7's to the same exact size load in the nitros and I would bet that is would be close. I have got 349 shot in a 10" out of my 835 with the 3.5' 2and 1/4oz #7 loads. Now if Nitros can do even slighty better for more than $2 a shell the point is really moot.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF0056_Small_.jpg)
Heck I shot Tues in 45 degree weather and had one choke turn in 312 shot in a 10" with these same loads out of my 835. That's dang good for that temp. Very few loads would duplicate that in that cool of weather.
Here's the proof. And that yardage was deadnut at 40yds.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF0069.jpg)
You can say what you want but I have shot both and EM Hevi shells will never perform like Nitros. With that being said they are still a good shell and quite a bit cheaper. Dead is dead no matter how you look at it. I still shoot the nitros and just ordered a new box. Nitros are what i started with and as long as they are advailable i will be shooting them. I have never had the problems alot of you say you have with their customer service but thats just me. I look at it this way........... I spend 200 dollars on calls, have 3 nice guns with burris optics and choke tubes , tons of money on camo and gas etc. With all that said the bullets in my gun are probaly the least expensive and hands down the most inportant !!!!! That is why i still shoot nitros. Alot of guys buy 5 or 6 choke tubes trying to get the pattern they are looking for when they could buy 1 tube and a box of nitros and get what they are looking for the first time. Just my view on things :z-guntootsmiley: :z-guntootsmiley:
And I do see your logic. Nitros are no doubt a wicked shell. But they should be for what they cost. The Hevi-13 are a very close second though. My way of thinking is if I'm going to pay about $160 or so for a box of 25 shells then I might as well just start loading some TSS loads and be done with it. That way I am getting even more performance. But I myself am content with the Hevi-13 loads. I don't need any better performance. But that's not knocking the guys that feel the need to buy Nitros or reload TSS. We all have our thoughts on what we want and like. :you_rock:
Can you shoot the 3 1/2 in 7s thru a compnchoke? Why is the constriction the same as other chokes but yet i keep hearing that i should change chokes? I regularly shot 3.5 in steel number 3s thru it with no issues and it shot well however i have yet to find a shell to break the 100 mark. Thanks
Charlie Boswell doesn't recommend that you shoot Hevi-13 loads through the Comp-n-Choke. The way the ports are cut perpendicular to the choke is supposed to make it weaker shooting these loads. I shot a few Rem Hevi-Shot loads years ago out of my Browning Gold 3.5 gun and a Comp-n-Choke and never had a problem. They shot very well. But I'm not going to say do it. That is up to you. But I will say that Charlie Boswell also tells people the same thing about shooting Hevi-13 loads out of a Kicks chokes or at least he did. And there are a lot of people that do so and never had a problem. I can also tell you that Kick's chokes are probably without question one of the beefiest chokes at the top of any choke I have held in my hand. They have a lot of steel as far as thickeness goes and are a heavy made choke. And I believe they are made out of 17-4PH(Pre-Hardened) stainless steel.
Thanks just ordered some 7s completely against my will (always liked 5s). anyone use the hevi chokes? gunna stick with my compnchoke for now and give it a try with the hevi 7s
Quote from: trash2 on February 26, 2011, 11:56:56 AM
Thanks just ordered some 7s completely against my will (always liked 5s). anyone use the hevi chokes? gunna stick with my compnchoke for now and give it a try with the hevi 7s
What gun are we talking about here?
Nova, super 90 has choke that has become part of the barrel.. may switch to ol trusty a5 tho if i cant get a better pattern. just like the idea of 3.5 and have the gun for that sole reason (turkeys) so kind of want to stick with it rather than send it to the attic.
Quote from: trash2 on February 26, 2011, 12:37:37 PM
Nova, super 90 has choke that has become part of the barrel.. may switch to ol trusty a5 tho if i cant get a better pattern. just like the idea of 3.5 and have the gun for that sole reason (turkeys) so kind of want to stick with it rather than send it to the attic.
Probably a .660 or .665 choke will work about the best with Hevi-13 loads. Indian Creek makes some great ones. And they guarantee your satisfaction or you can swap out until your tickled.