"Unsuccessful" is not a word you want see on your nonresident turkey draw notification. I guess for only the second time in approximately 35 years, I won't be hunting Kansas this season.
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I didn't draw either. I own a farm in Kansas and can't even hunt my own property. Glad folks are having their fun with these draws because it's killing me. I have drawn one permit all spring and everyone drew it that applied. I'll just keep adapting and overcoming until these other states organize draws.
Just gonna get more and more common.
Quote from: arkrem870 on February 25, 2025, 11:23:40 PMI didn't draw either. I own a farm in Kansas and can't even hunt my own property. Glad folks are having their fun with these draws because it's killing me. I have drawn one permit all spring and everyone drew it that applied. I'll just keep adapting and overcoming until these other states organize draws.
Lease it daily to OOSers and go hunt somewhere else with the money. I'm a problem solver.
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on February 25, 2025, 11:42:05 PMJust gonna get more and more common.
And that will come pretty quickly as states without draws will begin to see a big increase in OOS'ers. Yeh, I'm in that group and I hate to see it coming.
Unsuccessful for Kansas as well. 1st time in 15 or 16 yrs.
To all who missed their draw, sorry to hear it. It stinks to get shut out.
You should consider yourselves fortunate though, there's a 38,000 acre public land/reservoir less than 10 miles from my house in central N.C. that I've put in to hunt for 12 years straight and haven't been drawn yet. There's another 52,000 acre gameland/reservoir less than 30 miles away that I got drawn for once and we had record rainfall for the entire 3 days I was drawn to hunt. The creek I needed to cross was a river & I couldn't get to the intended area to hunt. The turkeys were sitting tight and it wasn't worth getting wet over.
I've got a few small farms and pieces of private where I can hunt, but they are extremely hit or miss. There's more hunting pressure around two of those farms than there is on the public land.
Jim
There is something terribly wrong when a landowner cannot hunt their on land during an open hunting season. Period. End of Story.
Lots of other options.
I am sorry to hear that, friend. In better news, bird numbers are up substantially in many parts of the state this year. I finally have a good crop of turkeys around to hunt, for the first time in a while.
Quote from: arkrem870 on February 25, 2025, 11:23:40 PMI didn't draw either. I own a farm in Kansas and can't even hunt my own property. Glad folks are having their fun with these draws because it's killing me. I have drawn one permit all spring and everyone drew it that applied. I'll just keep adapting and overcoming until these other states organize draws.
There is something terribly wrong when a landowner cannot hunt their on land during an open hunting season. Period. End of Story.
A buddy of mine, who guides in Kansas, told me in order to be considered a Resident/landowner you have to have more than 80 acres. Anything less than 80, you are a non-resident, and you must apply for the draw as a non-resident. Is this True? Just paying taxes, on less than 80 acres, doesn't get you a FREE pass as I understand it.
Quote from: bbcoach on February 26, 2025, 12:18:37 PMQuote from: arkrem870 on February 25, 2025, 11:23:40 PMI didn't draw either. I own a farm in Kansas and can't even hunt my own property. Glad folks are having their fun with these draws because it's killing me. I have drawn one permit all spring and everyone drew it that applied. I'll just keep adapting and overcoming until these other states organize draws.
There is something terribly wrong when a landowner cannot hunt their on land during an open hunting season. Period. End of Story.
A buddy of mine, who guides in Kansas, told me in order to be considered a Resident/landowner you have to have more than 80 acres. Anything less than 80, you are a non-resident, and you must apply for the draw as a non-resident. Is this True? Just paying taxes, on less than 80 acres, doesn't get you a FREE pass as I understand it.
That's the rule for a non resident hunt own land deer tag.
There is no hunt own land turkey tag. All non resident landowners must draw to turkey hunt under the new regulations.
Who made up these regulations, the scarecrow and the tin man?
Quote from: Zobo on February 26, 2025, 02:48:56 PMWho made up these regulations, the scarecrow and the tin man?
Nope, the Wicked Witches and their both dead!
To me, this doesn't make ANY sense at all. If you are a landowner and are paying Property taxes to any State, then you should be considered a resident of that State and be allowed to get a tag and hunt (Landowners Preference). You are ultimately helping to pay the salary of the elected officials and Wildlife Managers. All non-residents would be put in a drawing for whatever tags are leftover. Don't lump Tax paying landowners in ANY drawing that includes Non-residents. :z-twocents:
Non residents hunters have no representation. They are the first to get blamed and the first to get axed. The Kansas livestock association just introduced a bill to remove the non resident landowner deer tag when non resident land owners applying for hunt own land deer tags account for approx .3% (point three) of total acreage in Kansas.
Hunters and specifically non residents are under attack and facing lost opportunities right now and more in the future. It's wasn't peta or the libs pushing it.....it's our fellow hunters.
Quote from: arkrem870 on February 26, 2025, 02:01:19 PMQuote from: bbcoach on February 26, 2025, 12:18:37 PMQuote from: arkrem870 on February 25, 2025, 11:23:40 PMI didn't draw either. I own a farm in Kansas and can't even hunt my own property. Glad folks are having their fun with these draws because it's killing me. I have drawn one permit all spring and everyone drew it that applied. I'll just keep adapting and overcoming until these other states organize draws.
There is something terribly wrong when a landowner cannot hunt their on land during an open hunting season. Period. End of Story.
A buddy of mine, who guides in Kansas, told me in order to be considered a Resident/landowner you have to have more than 80 acres. Anything less than 80, you are a non-resident, and you must apply for the draw as a non-resident. Is this True? Just paying taxes, on less than 80 acres, doesn't get you a FREE pass as I understand it.
That's the rule for a non resident hunt own land deer tag.
There is no hunt own land turkey tag. All non resident landowners must draw to turkey hunt under the new regulations.
Man, i truly feel for you. What a crock of......
First, to not be able to hunt your own state with an over the counter tag, is a shame in itself... Than, to not be able to hunt your own land... Especialy for a simple specie such as turkey... incredible.
Lots of other options.
Quote from: Notsoyoungturk on February 26, 2025, 09:44:42 AMThere is something terribly wrong when a landowner cannot hunt their on land during an open hunting season. Period. End of Story.
Absolutely correct
Without further comment I know how most any landowner would handle this - hunt, boom, eat. Some states are a bad joke
1st time in 9 yrs I wont be going to Kansas either. I would love to know the number of people who get drawn and don't go. Also I don't agree with their draw being in February. It doesn't leave much time to find another place to go. Everyone is thinking about Turkeys in February so I am sure they get a lot of applications. Why not have it in June or July for the following year? Then you give people plenty of time for plan B and all the youtubers and internet hero's will be consumed with their deer baiting videos. But hey, lets keep recruiting more and more customers!
From what I'm reading KS has done a non-resident crackdown. Appears resident whining worked. Guess something we'll all have to live with everywhere.
Quote from: Notsoyoungturk on February 26, 2025, 09:44:42 AMThere is something terribly wrong when a landowner cannot hunt their on land during an open hunting season. Period. End of Story.
AMEN - if you pay taxes on property in that state, you should be able to hunt. Maybe they would have to have a minimum acreage (some guy might own a .10 of an acre and how will he hunt that?), but if you have some type of acreage and pay property taxes yearly, you should be able to get tag(s).
Central and Eastern Oregon have been that way for 50 years.
The land owners there get to watch tag holders from the coast hunt the land that the locals are not allowed to unless they drew the tag. This is for deer and elk, but there are restrictions for turkeys.
Quote from: joey46 on February 28, 2025, 09:38:00 AMFrom what I'm reading KS has done a non-resident crackdown. Appears resident whining worked. Guess something we'll all have to live with everywhere.
This is the way it should be everywhere IMO. Resident hunters/landowners are paying taxes to their State for the Right to hunt their State and should be given Top priority for that State. If the Wildlife Biologists are capping a particular resource, then Resident hunters/Landowners get the Priority. Any remaining tags would be put into a draw system and people would be charged a small fee to be a part of the draw (tax if you will). Then those that draw a tag should pay a Non-resident license fee or tag fee for the Privilege to hunt (another tax). For most of us, Over the Counter tags are a thing of the past. Turkeys are a Resource that needs to be regulated. Turkey poults have a VERY ROUGH time making it to Maturity! :z-twocents:
It truly is amazing how dumb Kansas is.
Lottery tags for private land :TrainWreck1:
Quote from: ruination on February 28, 2025, 12:41:14 PMIt truly is amazing how dumb Kansas is.
Lottery tags for private land :TrainWreck1:
I say good for ks. Now I read that a member had land in ks but was not the 80ac minimum to qualify for non-residents landowner tag. Alot of states have rules like this and also stipulations on the tag as in they can only hunt the ground they own. Hunting on any other owners ground requires a full cost non-resident tag and the rules that go along with them.
Quote from: Hook hanger on March 03, 2025, 08:53:14 PMQuote from: ruination on February 28, 2025, 12:41:14 PMIt truly is amazing how dumb Kansas is.
Lottery tags for private land :TrainWreck1:
I say good for ks. Now I read that a member had land in ks but was not the 80ac minimum to qualify for non-residents landowner tag. Alot of states have rules like this and also stipulations on the tag as in they can only hunt the ground they own. Hunting on any other owners ground requires a full cost non-resident tag and the rules that go along with them.
Kansas has no hunt own land non resident turkey tag anymore. Regardless of acreage owned. They do for deer but not turkey.