Electronic calls are legal in AZ, ME, NV and TX. I have hunted 3 of those states and never given a thought to considering using an electronic turkey call.
I don't consider using real turkey sounds to lure a gobbler in, fair chase anymore than hunting over bait.
The spring snow geese hunts allow electronic calls as these hunts are essentially depredation hunts based on the over population of snow geese that exists today. Predator control is enhanced with electronic calls.We are not dealing with that issue with turkeys and to me it seems lazy to utilize an electronic call to kill a turkey.
What is legal is not always ethical in my book.
I'm curious if most of you all feel the same as I do about electronic calls for turkeys. I would be shocked if more than a very few feel using electronic calls to kill a gobbler is ethical.
Use what you want where legal, but the whole point of turkey hunting to me is trying to call them in myself!
I would love to know if the e caller would call in those hung up birds though, would be an interesting experiment!
The real fun part of turkey hunting is fooling the gobbler with my calling!
I consider myself a decent turkey caller and I sound better than any electronic call I've ever heard. Additionally, even if an electronic call is legal, your limiting yourself to one pitch/tone and one cadence no matter what. I can't count how many times I've been working a stubborn bird and switch up the pitch or cadence and here he comes. As said above folks can use what they want but you'll have a much more rewarding experience figuring out what the bird wants to hear and communicating with him.
Off topic, but electronic calls for predators are a totally different thing imo.
Man, you're opening a can of worms here. First, I'll say if a state makes it legal then so be it though in some cases I don't care for it. There's a number of things in today's hunting I don't care for. Game cameras that send you pics to your cell phone, so you know when your deer is coming. Bow sites that have built in range finders and pouring bags of bate on the ground in front of your stand to lure in and hold deer for you. To name a few. I hunt turkeys because I love playing the game win, lose or draw and using custom made turkey calls brings that enjoyment to a higher level. It may sound a bit snobbish, but I really enjoy using a handmade call that a call maker put their heart and soul into. I cannot even fathom trying to hunt turkey's using an electronic game call or sneaking closer with a turkey fan in front of me. JMO
Zero interest. And zero interest in hearing somebody talk about, or read about how they called up and killed a gobbler with an electronic call. Some people may throw out the other E word and say I'm an Elitist. I just consider myself a turkey hunter with self imposed restrictions on tools and methods.
Makes me want to puke.
not allowed in WV and that's fine with me. I'm at a disadvantage compared to others because I've never carried a mouth call in the woods but, I get'em in and I do so without pushing a button on some electronic device.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on June 03, 2023, 07:56:54 PM
Makes me want to puke.
Pretty much sums it up for me. Calling in a Tom with the various types of calls is what makes Turkey hunting an art. Diaphragms, boxes, trumpets, pots, scratch boxes all have their own entity and art of mastery. Pushing a button on an electronic call just takes away the art of trickery, it is cheating nature in my book. This is just my opinion, I hope most states do not consider making these legal. I think it will erode our sport.
I know nothing about electronic callers, but I can't imagine how using one of them would give someone an advantage in calling turkeys. Perhaps they are versatile enough in terms of the various subtleties needed in a lot of calling situations that they might aid a novice hunter, but I find it hard to believe they would be of much benefit to anybody that has hunted turkeys long enough that they would have the need to resort to using one of them,...much less even want to do so. I suspect that even in those states where they are legal, their use is probably pretty rare.
Having said that, just from an ethical standpoint, I think their use is questionable,...but then again, there are quite a few other things in the modern turkey-hunting world that I personally believe are bigger fish to be fried in terms of the ethics involved.
Nope. Legal doesn't mean right. Sorry, a hard "no" for me.....
No for me. What's the point?
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Absolutely not.
Never heard turkey on an e caller but the newer sound files for calling coyotes are recorded real coyotes and sound 100% perfect!
I would imagine the turkey sounds are the same?
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Ya, it's a big fat No for me Dawg. But if it's legal, knock yer socks off.
To the tune of Marty Robbin's "Big Iron on His hip"
To the deep dark public forest rode an E-biker one fine day
Hardly spoke to the jakes around him, because he didn't know what to say
No jakes dared to come to his calling, no jakes cared to make a slip
For the YouTuber there among them had an E-Caller on his hip,
E-Caller on His hip.
It was in the early morning when the E-Bike crashed to the ground,
He came stumbling from the darkness loudly cackling all around
He's a Youtube Run and Gunner purred the jakes from their lips
And he's here to do some squealing with the E-Caller on his hip,
E-Caller on his hip
I agree with most folk on here. I don't know how people can call themselves genuine turkey hunters when they hunt over bait, road hunt, etc... The electronic call has absolutely never interested me one bit. Not for me period or any one I hunt with. I would get no satisfaction or feel a sense of accomplishment if I were to take one that way. Thats my thought anyhow. It is indeed an interesting topic you have gotten started lol. It will be interesting to read all the perspectives
Bahahahahahahaha. Nice tune CROW. I like it, lol lol
I have NO desire to use electronic type calls... I have better custom calls than any electronic type call... and i know how to use my custom calls ...
Thanks for all the responses. I too have zero desire to use an electronic caller regardless if it's legalized in all 49.
It's legal to shoot a Rio off a feeder in TX, but I have no desire to do so any more than if a state were to legalize trench baiting and one could mow down multiple birds.
Not my thing, but if it's legal then you do you, lol. Z
It is is not legal here so it is a non-issue. With that said use of an E Caller would diminish the experience in my book. If I wanted a turkey that bad I would go to the store and buy one.
Absolutely a "NO !!" for me. Never, ever. Legal or not. I hunt turkeys for the one-on-one interaction. You don't get that by turning on the FoxPro and waiting.
EXCEPT............ Ocellated hunting. There's really never been an effective, manual call devised for them. Some outfitters are using e-callers. To me......... that would be MUCH preferrable to roost shooting or driving through the jungle and shooting from a Jeep.
Big NO for me. Using calls is the fun of hunting turkeys.
If I was up for something different I might try it once.
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It has become extremely easy to harvest a turkey.
On-x allows us to predict where they will roost and allows us to move in on them with precision when the hunt is taking place.
Blinds and decoys allow hunters to hunt them in virtually any location.
TSS allows hunters to shoot them farther than ever.
Fanning and reaping allows children and supposed adult turkey hunters to simply put a fan in front of their face and harvest gobblers at mere feet.
I am so damn sick of hearing the "If it's legal, so be it" nonsense.
At some point, we need to say enough is enough. This should be sporting. It should be fair to the turkeys. We should have their sustainability and interests at the forefront of our considerations instead of what new technological development will make it easier to kill one.
Electronic or motorized anything should not even be a conversation.
Learn how to kill a damn turkey or gtfo of the damn woods.
Quote from: Kyle_Ott on June 04, 2023, 01:03:21 PM
It has become extremely easy to harvest a turkey.
On-x allows us to predict where they will roost and allows us to move in on them with precision when the hunt is taking place.
Blinds and decoys allow hunters to hunt them in virtually any location.
TSS allows hunters to shoot them farther than ever.
Fanning and reaping allows children and supposed adult turkey hunters to simply put a fan in front of their face and harvest gobblers at mere feet.
I am so damn sick of hearing the "If it's legal, so be it" nonsense.
At some point, we need to say enough is enough. This should be sporting. It should be fair to the turkeys. We should have their sustainability and interests at the forefront of our considerations instead of what new technological development will make it easier to kill one.
Electronic or motorized anything should not even be a conversation.
Learn how to kill a damn turkey or gtfo of the damn woods.
You ain't wrong.
Quote from: Kyle_Ott on June 04, 2023, 01:03:21 PM
It has become extremely easy to harvest a turkey.
On-x allows us to predict where they will roost and allows us to move in on them with precision when the hunt is taking place.
Blinds and decoys allow hunters to hunt them in virtually any location.
TSS allows hunters to shoot them farther than ever.
Fanning and reaping allows children and supposed adult turkey hunters to simply put a fan in front of their face and harvest gobblers at mere feet.
I am so damn sick of hearing the "If it's legal, so be it" nonsense.
At some point, we need to say enough is enough. This should be sporting. It should be fair to the turkeys. We should have their sustainability and interests at the forefront of our considerations instead of what new technological development will make it easier to kill one.
Electronic or motorized anything should not even be a conversation.
Learn how to kill a damn turkey or gtfo of the damn woods.
Extremely well said! Unfortunately, many of the new turkey hunters are learning from complete and total idiots with a "kill at all cost" mentality. I was fortunate to have a father who taught me how to be a woodsman and how to sit to a turkey the right way. I wasn't taught to drive around, find one strutting in a pasture, grab the fan, and go after him. I was taught that it's ok to get your teeth kicked in by the turkey. Just learn from it.
It sickens me to see the direction the turkey industry has gone. I grew up watching the old Knight and Hale videos. Those guys could flat out turkey hunt without any gimmicks. I listened to a podcast with Mr. Harold Knight not long ago and he discussed hunting in Nebraska and said all the turkeys he killed were fanned in. You'd think an old timer like that would be stressing/teaching hunters how to hunt them without pressing the easy button. Same goes for Michael Waddell. He is a heck of a turkey hunter and does not need to take any shortcuts. You cannot watch a video of his now without him hiding behind a strutting decoy.
I just fear that new hunters are not learning the bird. Instead, they are learning shortcuts on how to kill them. Which yes...you go out in the woods to kill a turkey, but there's more to it in my opinion. That's what makes turkey hunting different.
I would have bet money it was illegal is most every state to use electronic calls on turkeys, partiularly my own state of Texas.
I checked, it is legal. I may be lobbying my state legislator to end that next session.
That's a no for me.
Illegal in WI. Only advantage I can think of would be putting it 45 yards behind you and doing the whole "hen is moving away" thing. I wouldn't, but that's a use case that's not just lazy. ???????????
If using an electronic call to kill a gobbler was the only way I could kill one I'd quit hunting and find myself a new hobby.... Turkey hunting to me is about running the calls myself and fooling the turkeys on my own.
:drool:
Quote from: Kyle_Ott on June 04, 2023, 01:03:21 PM
It has become extremely easy to harvest a turkey.
On-x allows us to predict where they will roost and allows us to move in on them with precision when the hunt is taking place.
Blinds and decoys allow hunters to hunt them in virtually any location.
TSS allows hunters to shoot them farther than ever.
Fanning and reaping allows children and supposed adult turkey hunters to simply put a fan in front of their face and harvest gobblers at mere feet.
I am so damn sick of hearing the "If it's legal, so be it" nonsense.
At some point, we need to say enough is enough. This should be sporting. It should be fair to the turkeys. We should have their sustainability and interests at the forefront of our considerations instead of what new technological development will make it easier to kill one.
Electronic or motorized anything should not even be a conversation.
Learn how to kill a damn turkey or gtfo of the damn woods.
This is so true. Just what I've been saying. Glad to know at least a few felt this way. Was beginning to think I was all alone ( and I didn't really care, lol). Preach on- I will listen
Quote from: Sir-diealot on June 03, 2023, 07:56:54 PM
Makes me want to puke.
Indeed.
Just like rifles. But if it's legal and people do it. They have that option.
I just can't do either and be able to sleep.
Quote from: GobbleNut on June 03, 2023, 08:43:31 PM
I know nothing about electronic callers, but I can't imagine how using one of them would give someone an advantage in calling turkeys.
You are using recorded live turkey calls... Stick one under a decoy... Use your phone to decide what calls and when to play them... Cutting, yelping, and many of those subtle chirps and sounds that are difficult to make... Any sound that a turkey makes, you have access to with a touch of a button on your phone... And it will sound like it is coming from your decoy. Hen, jake, or tom...
It is a short-cut to killing a bird, and bypasses the learning curve of learning about turkey sounds and how to make them. You get a device with a list of sounds, and what they are, and all you have to do to replicate them perfectly, is press a button.
To me... This is an example of people wanting to kill a turkey rather than hunt them. It is NOT fair chase.
This is a perfect example of the argument AGAINST, "if it is legal it is OK."
This is a great example of where hunters should be the stewards of our sport, and the game we hunt. Actual hunters should be openly and vocally opposed to allowing such devices to be used. Actual hunters SHOULD NOT STAND FOR THIS.
Quote from: Marc on June 05, 2023, 10:33:21 AM
Quote from: GobbleNut on June 03, 2023, 08:43:31 PM
I know nothing about electronic callers, but I can't imagine how using one of them would give someone an advantage in calling turkeys.
You are using recorded live turkey calls... Stick one under a decoy... Use your phone to decide what calls and when to play them... Cutting, yelping, and many of those subtle chirps and sounds that are difficult to make... Any sound that a turkey makes, you have access to with a touch of a button on your phone... And it will sound like it is coming from your decoy. Hen, jake, or tom...
It is a short-cut to killing a bird, and bypasses the learning curve of learning about turkey sounds and how to make them. You get a device with a list of sounds, and what they are, and all you have to do to replicate them perfectly, is press a button.
To me... This is an example of people wanting to kill a turkey rather than hunt them. It is NOT fair chase.
This is a perfect example of the argument AGAINST, "if it is legal it is OK."
This is a great example of where hunters should be the stewards of our sport, and the game we hunt. Actual hunters should be openly and vocally opposed to allowing such devices to be used. Actual hunters SHOULD NOT STAND FOR THIS.
Very well explained and I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Marc, stated "it's not a fair chase". I would agree totally. I think most ethical hunters understand the meaning of Fair Chase. But for some, I would have to define the meaning of ethical..."relating to moral principals' which is standards of right or wrong that a person or group has. These are passed down from family, peers, or society or possibly a hunting group.. If we don't speak up and out, they are learning from society, and I'll just say, " Lord help us all"! Love the hunter, hate the act. Start with 1 hunter and let it snowball from there. Your always going to have a few who would rather go the wrong route. Focus on the one's we can truly help in all ethical forms of hunting. I will not use electronic devices for turkey hunting because I enjoy the Fair Chase!
Just my 2 cents
Some places got feeders, decoys, what the heck let them use electronic callers
Should not be legal. In my opinion, neither should any decoy that creates movement electronically. At some point, the nonsense has to be addressed. It's not fair chase, and regardless of "if it's legal", should be no place for it in turkey hunting. Just more watering down of the sport. I have sent emails on the decoys to state commissioners concerning the electronic decoys. I'd suggest anyone opposed should do the same and encourage others to do so as well.
Quote from: Marc on June 05, 2023, 10:33:21 AM
Quote from: GobbleNut on June 03, 2023, 08:43:31 PM
I know nothing about electronic callers, but I can't imagine how using one of them would give someone an advantage in calling turkeys.
You are using recorded live turkey calls... Stick one under a decoy... Use your phone to decide what calls and when to play them... Cutting, yelping, and many of those subtle chirps and sounds that are difficult to make... Any sound that a turkey makes, you have access to with a touch of a button on your phone... And it will sound like it is coming from your decoy. Hen, jake, or tom...
It is a short-cut to killing a bird, and bypasses the learning curve of learning about turkey sounds and how to make them. You get a device with a list of sounds, and what they are, and all you have to do to replicate them perfectly, is press a button.
To me... This is an example of people wanting to kill a turkey rather than hunt them. It is NOT fair chase.
This is a perfect example of the argument AGAINST, "if it is legal it is OK."
This is a great example of where hunters should be the stewards of our sport, and the game we hunt. Actual hunters should be openly and vocally opposed to allowing such devices to be used. Actual hunters SHOULD NOT STAND FOR THIS.
Good explanation of the possible expansion of the use of electronic callers, Marc. Under the circumstances you describe, that would definitely be a "bridge too far" in their use. When contemplating the use of e-callers, I was thinking of some guy holding a device in his hand and using it to imitate turkey calls basically as a substitute for a "regular" turkey call.
I have only seen one e-caller in my life, and it was a device which had several buttons on it with the different sounds a turkey might make. Those sounds were repetitive (same yelp sequence sounding like it was coming from a 1950's transistor radio), and I could/can not imagine anybody thinking that would be preferrable to just learning how to use any one of the manually-operated tools that are at our disposal nowadays.
Like others have stated, I am in complete agreement that electronic callers should not be legal anywhere,...and especially if the possible scenario you describe was implemented by someone, assuming that kind of technology is actually available (or being contemplated). Again, though, there are quite a few other tactics used by turkey hunters that I think fall into a similar category.
Quote from: Prospector on June 04, 2023, 07:48:29 PM
:drool:Quote from: Kyle_Ott on June 04, 2023, 01:03:21 PM
It has become extremely easy to harvest a turkey.
On-x allows us to predict where they will roost and allows us to move in on them with precision when the hunt is taking place.
Blinds and decoys allow hunters to hunt them in virtually any location.
TSS allows hunters to shoot them farther than ever.
Fanning and reaping allows children and supposed adult turkey hunters to simply put a fan in front of their face and harvest gobblers at mere feet.
I am so damn sick of hearing the "If it's legal, so be it" nonsense.
At some point, we need to say enough is enough. This should be sporting. It should be fair to the turkeys. We should have their sustainability and interests at the forefront of our considerations instead of what new technological development will make it easier to kill one.
Electronic or motorized anything should not even be a conversation.
Learn how to kill a damn turkey or gtfo of the damn woods.
This is so true. Just what I've been saying. Glad to know at least a few felt this way. Was beginning to think I was all alone ( and I didn't really care, lol). Preach on- I will listen
To be honest, this is along the lines of how I think. Sometimes the truth hurts, but it's no less the truth, and should be heard by many now participating in something many of us hold in high regard. In today's world you just have to be extremely blunt sometimes.
Quote from: GobbleNut on June 05, 2023, 02:12:26 PM
Quote from: Marc on June 05, 2023, 10:33:21 AM
Quote from: GobbleNut on June 03, 2023, 08:43:31 PM
I know nothing about electronic callers, but I can't imagine how using one of them would give someone an advantage in calling turkeys.
You are using recorded live turkey calls... Stick one under a decoy... Use your phone to decide what calls and when to play them... Cutting, yelping, and many of those subtle chirps and sounds that are difficult to make... Any sound that a turkey makes, you have access to with a touch of a button on your phone... And it will sound like it is coming from your decoy. Hen, jake, or tom...
It is a short-cut to killing a bird, and bypasses the learning curve of learning about turkey sounds and how to make them. You get a device with a list of sounds, and what they are, and all you have to do to replicate them perfectly, is press a button.
To me... This is an example of people wanting to kill a turkey rather than hunt them. It is NOT fair chase.
This is a perfect example of the argument AGAINST, "if it is legal it is OK."
This is a great example of where hunters should be the stewards of our sport, and the game we hunt. Actual hunters should be openly and vocally opposed to allowing such devices to be used. Actual hunters SHOULD NOT STAND FOR THIS.
Good explanation of the possible expansion of the use of electronic callers, Marc. Under the circumstances you describe, that would definitely be a "bridge too far" in their use. When contemplating the use of e-callers, I was thinking of some guy holding a device in his hand and using it to imitate turkey calls basically as a substitute for a "regular" turkey call.
I have only seen one e-caller in my life, and it was a device which had several buttons on it with the different sounds a turkey might make. Those sounds were repetitive (same yelp sequence sounding like it was coming from a 1950's transistor radio), and I could/can not imagine anybody thinking that would be preferrable to just learning how to use any one of the manually-operated tools that are at our disposal nowadays.
Like others have stated, I am in complete agreement that electronic callers should not be legal anywhere,...and especially if the possible scenario you describe was implemented by someone, assuming that kind of technology is actually available (or being contemplated). Again, though, there are quite a few other tactics used by turkey hunters that I think fall into a similar category.
Yes, I think this is something most of us can agree upon.
have not actually seen e-callers for turkeys, but have seen them for crows, coyotes, and geese.
Very realistic sounds recorded from live animals, and you can download and use a variety of sounds from a remote or your phone (with some).
While I understand the use e-callers for depridation killing and pest control, these devices have no place in "hunting" in my opinion.
Why stop there? Just buy a remote control hen that you can walk around, peck the ground, play a variety of calls, and lay into a breeding position to close the last few yards....
.... There's no fun/skill in that, that's why. We have an instinctual desire as hunters to win the challenge. Same reason there's no satisfaction in beating your toddler by 90 in a pickup game.
There's something God implanted deep within us, and we desire the challenge!
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I agree. I'm kind of getting tired of the whole "if it's legal" argument. I agree to let people hunt how they like to hunt but man we have to draw the line somewhere.
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Nope. No interest in an electronic caller for turkeys. Same way for me sitting in a blind. Don't want to hunt them like deer. Want to call them in to me. If can't do that, don't want to hunt them.
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Certainly not my style. Infact I don't think I'd want to be part of it.
No different than using a high dollar turkey doll.
The problem I have with all this making it easier to kill gobblers is the government response trends toward lowering limits. They lowered the limit to two where I am. That's barely enough to stay in practice. If it were to go down to just 1 I could hardly take turkey hunting seriously anymore without traveling.
My opinion is turkeys aren't like other game. They won't stand heavy harvest. The rules of the game must make it hard to kill them. No bait. No dolls. No blinds. And now that we've got TSS, nothing bigger than a 20ga. And that's probably too big.
Quote from: howl on June 06, 2023, 08:48:42 PM
No different than using a high dollar turkey doll.
The problem I have with all this making it easier to kill gobblers is the government response trends toward lowering limits. They lowered the limit to two where I am. That's barely enough to stay in practice. If it were to go down to just 1 I could hardly take turkey hunting seriously anymore without traveling.
My opinion is turkeys aren't like other game. They won't stand heavy harvest. The rules of the game must make it hard to kill them. No bait. No dolls. No blinds. And now that we've got TSS, nothing bigger than a 20ga. And that's probably too big.
Valid points! The all mighty dollar speaks louder than we do when it comes to limits and retail, but we must do what's right for the turkey.
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Quote from: howl on June 06, 2023, 08:48:42 PM
No different than using a high dollar turkey doll.
The problem I have with all this making it easier to kill gobblers is the government response trends toward lowering limits. They lowered the limit to two where I am. That's barely enough to stay in practice. If it were to go down to just 1 I could hardly take turkey hunting seriously anymore without traveling.
My opinion is turkeys aren't like other game. They won't stand heavy harvest. The rules of the game must make it hard to kill them. No bait. No dolls. No blinds. And now that we've got TSS, nothing bigger than a 20ga. And that's probably too big.
Well, let's not forget the cell phones and maps etc....
Quote from: howl on June 06, 2023, 08:48:42 PM
No different than using a high dollar turkey doll.
The problem I have with all this making it easier to kill gobblers is the government response trends toward lowering limits. They lowered the limit to two where I am. That's barely enough to stay in practice. If it were to go down to just 1 I could hardly take turkey hunting seriously anymore without traveling.
My opinion is turkeys aren't like other game. They won't stand heavy harvest. The rules of the game must make it hard to kill them. No bait. No dolls. No blinds. And now that we've got TSS, nothing bigger than a 20ga. And that's probably too big.
Gotta go along with you, Howl. All the tech and crutches make it too easy on killas to kill. You know it's weird, but without all that I'm still managing to call up a gobbler " every now and then" ....
Quote from: Prospector on June 07, 2023, 05:51:02 AM
Quote from: howl on June 06, 2023, 08:48:42 PM
No different than using a high dollar turkey doll.
The problem I have with all this making it easier to kill gobblers is the government response trends toward lowering limits. They lowered the limit to two where I am. That's barely enough to stay in practice. If it were to go down to just 1 I could hardly take turkey hunting seriously anymore without traveling.
My opinion is turkeys aren't like other game. They won't stand heavy harvest. The rules of the game must make it hard to kill them. No bait. No dolls. No blinds. And now that we've got TSS, nothing bigger than a 20ga. And that's probably too big.
Gotta go along with you, Howl. All the tech and crutches make it too easy on killas to kill. You know it's weird, but without all that I'm still managing to call up a gobbler " every now and then" ....
For many in today's turkey hunting world of instant gratification, "every now and then" or the fact that you should probably lose more than you win, isn't acceptable. Heaven forbid one has to walk away on a certain day or invest multiple hunts on a turkey. We all go the woods to kill a turkey, but too many wannabe killers and not "hunters" these days. And way too much marketing for personal gain.
The fact that this conversation is even taking place blows my mind .
Zero interest for me even if it were legal here, which it is not. The fun of turkey hunting is getting him in range with skillful calling.
Quote from: callmakerman on June 03, 2023, 07:51:05 PM
Man, you're opening a can of worms here. First, I'll say if a state makes it legal then so be it though in some cases I don't care for it. There's a number of things in today's hunting I don't care for. Game cameras that send you pics to your cell phone, so you know when your deer is coming. Bow sites that have built in range finders and pouring bags of bate on the ground in front of your stand to lure in and hold deer for you. To name a few. I hunt turkeys because I love playing the game win, lose or draw and using custom made turkey calls brings that enjoyment to a higher level. It may sound a bit snobbish, but I really enjoy using a handmade call that a call maker put their heart and soul into. I cannot even fathom trying to hunt turkey's using an electronic game call or sneaking closer with a turkey fan in front of me. JMO
Very well said Bill and couldn't agree more buddy

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What's the difference in using an electronic caller vs hiring a guide? Seems like a lot of guys here use guides.
Never considered using an electronic turkey call and didn't know they made them
Quote from: Guskie on June 07, 2023, 04:32:01 PM
What's the difference in using an electronic caller vs hiring a guide? Seems like a lot of guys here use guides.
a guide is still human
He could trip, fall down and break his call,
sneeze, cough or maybe drink too much the night before
Now a guide with an e-caller, now you got a party
An e-caller would take all the fun out of it ! If I can't call the turkey in using standard turkey calls then I'd rather not go !
My son and his friends hunt fox and coyote with both electronic calls and mouth blown calls. He always says that the first week or two of season any idiot can kill them with a foxpro. But he also says that after a week or so in heavy hunted areas, you'd better know how to run a mouth call if you're going to kill anything. I wouldn't doubt it would be the same thing with turkeys.
Quote from: Guskie on June 07, 2023, 04:32:01 PM
What's the difference in using an electronic caller vs hiring a guide? Seems like a lot of guys here use guides.
I can think of a number of differences...
*Often a guide will let the client do the calling if requested (I looked into a hunt this year, and that was the case)
*Some people use a guide to learn how to hunt and call.
*In most instances a guide is not utilizing an electronic recording of live birds to call in the bird. I would be strongly opposed to a guide who did use E-Calling.
*As most guides do NOT use E-callers the hunter is getting to experience the hunt and the experience of calling in a bird.
A guide can be a great way for someone with limited time, or a new hunter to experience a turkey hunt... More so with some guides than others of course, but it is certainly not the same as using a electronic call with recordings of live birds to hunt.
Might make sure it's legal in whatever state. Pretty sure it's not legal in Mississippi for turkey. I would not use one anyway. Take the fun out of it
I have used e callers for bobcat Coon and coyote
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Quote from: Marc on June 08, 2023, 09:10:19 PM
Quote from: Guskie on June 07, 2023, 04:32:01 PM
What's the difference in using an electronic caller vs hiring a guide? Seems like a lot of guys here use guides.
I can think of a number of differences...
*Often a guide will let the client do the calling if requested (I looked into a hunt this year, and that was the case)
*Some people use a guide to learn how to hunt and call.
*In most instances a guide is not utilizing an electronic recording of live birds to call in the bird. I would be strongly opposed to a guide who did use E-Calling.
*As most guides do NOT use E-callers the hunter is getting to experience the hunt and the experience of calling in a bird.
A guide can be a great way for someone with limited time, or a new hunter to experience a turkey hunt... More so with some guides than others of course, but it is certainly not the same as using a electronic call with recordings of live birds to hunt.
Youre right. Guide prolly worse, LOL.
As we know, you absolutely cannot Legislate Morality!!! Look at the stupid laws that they have passed and continue each day to try to pass.
Morality is in your raisin'!!!! This Country that we love is in BIG TROUBLE!!!!
Keep with the mentality that "OH, if it is legal, it's Okay" and one day in the near future the only turkeys you will be getting will be raised by Sanderson Farms, in a chicken house!!!
Have a good one and May God bless y'all, Bocephus
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