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Title: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: BDeal on December 27, 2022, 09:43:01 AM
Greetings All-

I've never shot TSS. I'm looking at 3 inch Apex #9 or the Ninjas in #8.5. Any thoughts or suggestions between the two?

Thank You!
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: guesswho on December 27, 2022, 09:46:17 AM
I'd go with 9's.   They will kill a turkey beyond distances we should be shooting.
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Dtrkyman on December 27, 2022, 09:47:07 AM
I've shot 9 and 9.5 for the past 5 years, I doubt you would see any real advantage or disadvantge with either but 9s are plenty.  Loaded some 7.5s for a couple states where it was the smallest legal size, and while the patterns were still really good there was a clear difference.

It was weird when first switching to such small shot, but this stuff is just superior to lead in every way other than cost!
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Spring Creek Calls on December 27, 2022, 09:49:49 AM
I've killed turkeys with both but only bought the 8.5's when the 9's weren't available. My 28 gauge really likes 9.5's.
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Tail Feathers on December 27, 2022, 10:50:05 AM
Been shooting 9's for a few years.  They work well on killing birds at any reasonable distance and pattern great.
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Swampmonkey on December 27, 2022, 11:10:32 AM
Shot both 8.5's and 9'a in 12ga and the patterns are ridiculous in both. The difference between the 2 is pretty negligible in my opinion. Does seem apex has ninja 8.5 in stock a lot more often though.
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Greg Massey on December 27, 2022, 11:16:18 AM
You know i have killed a lot of gobblers through-out my life and if i don't kill another one that's just fine. I have to admit i got all wrapped up in the TSS shells and for sub gauge guns they are the shell to use. BUT looking back over my turkey hunting career i can only remember one time that i would have needed a TSS loaded shell. I have killed a bunch of turkeys with good old patience and Federal 12 ga. 3 inch 2 oz no. 5 ... Now don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking TSS at all fine shells for killing turkeys but to this day I've only used them in a 410 but i do have them in 20 ga shells.   After seeing Remington coming on the market with TSS and prices in my opinion that are ridiculous we have to ask ourselves are these really needed. Just my opinion. BUT again i feel you needed to BUY what you think you will need in being successful in hunting these gobblers.  TSS , GUNS , CALLS etc...  To answer your question NO 9 or 9.5
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: scootac on December 27, 2022, 12:04:12 PM
Stopped at a gun shop this morning and happened to see these TSS shells. They were 12 gauge.....but a box of 5 was $70!!!!!!!!
That is just stupid crazy!!!!!
For that price, they should be heat-seeking pellets that dress and cook the turkey for me!!!!
Reading more and more on this forum......between scopes on shotguns and $14 shells......I wonder if I even belong here.
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Tail Feathers on December 27, 2022, 01:09:00 PM
Quote from: scootac on December 27, 2022, 12:04:12 PM
Stopped at a gun shop this morning and happened to see these TSS shells. They were 12 gauge.....but a box of 5 was $70!!!!!!!!
That is just stupid crazy!!!!!
For that price, they should be heat-seeking pellets that dress and cook the turkey for me!!!!
Reading more and more on this forum......between scopes on shotguns and $14 shells......I wonder if I even belong here.
Everyone hunts with what suits them.  No pressure from folks here to do it any way but your way.  These shells are expensive but I didn't have to buy five different chokes to find a good pattern.  With all I spend on travel and licenses, the shells are a cheap part of my spring each year. 
Shoot what works for you. Amd yes, if you are a turkey addict, you belong here. 
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: jhoward11 on December 27, 2022, 02:49:47 PM
Looks like I can now use 9-10's in Indiana. I think I'll use up my 7.5's for my 20g before switching to 9's. I agree, shoot what you want. Just cause I don't agree, doesn't make it right or wrong. Some of the best hunts I remember, I walked back to the truck with just my gun. I enjoy beating him at his own game. Not going to shoot a mile to kill a bird...that's no fun! And yes...some times he wins hung up out there. But guess what? I get to go tomorrow now:)
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Yoder409 on December 27, 2022, 03:24:23 PM
8.5............ 9...........9.5.........

Take your pick.

Like many have already mentioned, you're gonna get monster patterns from any of the three.  WAY sufficient for turkey killin' to 40 yards.   I'm still using old skool Federal Heavy 7's and will be, very likely, 'til I'm too old and dead to hunt anymore.  They just, flat kill turkeys.  The loads you are considering will give better patterns than what I'm getting, so..............

Eeny, meeny, miney, moe................
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Happy on December 27, 2022, 05:53:03 PM
I like the #8.5's in tss and the federal heviweight in #7 for my 20 guages. For 12 gauge, I just use some leftover hevishot #6's or lead #5's. I prefer more thump than super high pellet counts at the ranges I shoot.

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Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: BDeal on December 27, 2022, 06:14:07 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on December 27, 2022, 03:24:23 PM
8.5............ 9...........9.5.........

Take your pick.

Like many have already mentioned, you're gonna get monster patterns from any of the three.  WAY sufficient for turkey killin' to 40 yards.   I'm still using old skool Federal Heavy 7's and will be, very likely, 'til I'm too old and dead to hunt anymore.  They just, flat kill turkeys.  The loads you are considering will give better patterns than what I'm getting, so..............

Eeny, meeny, miney, moe................

If I could still get the heavyweight #7's I would never switch. I'm running out and that's why I'm switching.
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Tail Feathers on December 27, 2022, 06:32:50 PM
Same here.  I'm down to about 15 rounds of the HW 7's.  Sure wish they would bring them back.
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on December 27, 2022, 07:44:12 PM
Definitely #9s, particularly in the sub gauges. They're lethal well beyond ethical ranges and no reason at all to sacrifice any pellet count in the lighter loads. It might not be but 30-50 extra pellets but I want them. I do use Ninjas in my 12ga but primarily because I can typically get my hands on them consistently whereas the standard #9s can be hard to track down at times.


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Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Dtrkyman on December 27, 2022, 08:55:45 PM
I still have a ways to go catching up on kills with lead or Hevi shot.  I went TSS to hunt with a lighter weight gun in a sub guage, loading my own isn't too pricey but buying it loaded is painful I guess.

I would bite the bullet though if I had to buy them, I average 6-10 birds a year so another 100$ in ammo won't kill me, though as mentioned above I have rarely shot a bird that would not have died throwing lead at em, but the confidence those TSS patterns give is worth it!

12ga I doubt I would shoot TSS?
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: richard black on December 27, 2022, 09:34:08 PM
Either load in TSS will be more than sufficient to kill a turkey at a reasonable distance. I happen to use TSS #8 in a 20ga Remington and am more than pleased with the performance. When you consider the overall cost of hunting turkeys, the ammo becomes neglible.  Where I hunt we are allowed 1 bearded turkey per season. I want to be sure of a clean kill and TSS just gives me more assurance. But to each their own, whether it is camo, calls, guns, lead or TSS.
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Zobo on December 27, 2022, 10:55:51 PM
Quote from: scootac on December 27, 2022, 12:04:12 PM
Stopped at a gun shop this morning and happened to see these TSS shells. They were 12 gauge.....but a box of 5 was $70!!!!!!!!
That is just stupid crazy!!!!!
For that price, they should be heat-seeking pellets that dress and cook the turkey for me!!!!
Reading more and more on this forum......between scopes on shotguns and $14 shells......I wonder if I even belong here.

I've never used TSS or a scope and I've used the same old Remington pump for 25 years. However I do hunt with ridiculously expensive turkey calls. Very little of what we talk about here is necessary, but it's interesting, informative and fun nevertheless. Anybody who's serious about turkey hunt and respectful of  other people's opinions definitely belongs here.
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: 76chevy on December 30, 2022, 07:56:25 PM
the 9.5 and 10 shot patterns have me spoiled!

Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Gooserbat on December 30, 2022, 10:04:23 PM
A 250 /10"@ 40 will kill everytime at 60 yards with #9.  That's an easily obtainable number.  It's also all your ever going to need from a 20.  If you want more get a 12 ga.
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: davisd9 on December 30, 2022, 10:23:17 PM
9s would be my choice but flip a coin as there is little difference
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: kelley91 on January 01, 2023, 07:27:56 AM
anyone tried a 20ga Remington with a Carlson long beard turkey choke using tss # 9
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Mossberg90MN on January 05, 2023, 12:13:08 PM
9 all day


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Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Pu11it on January 06, 2023, 05:45:40 AM
I have used 8's and 9's. I use #9's only now and have never felt lacking.
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: JohnSouth22 on January 12, 2023, 07:30:24 PM
I know its a mental block, but even 9.5 or 10's are great options for 20 gauge. The results are undeniable. a #10 pellet of tungsten 18-18.5 carries enough ft/lbs of energy to kill a turkey out to 51-52 yards unobstructed
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: turkeygod4 on January 20, 2023, 09:20:53 AM
My 20ga. Remington 870 youth with Trulock Pinhoti .585 choke loves Apex #9's. Out to 40 even drops them dead. I picked up a couple of boxes of Apex's Ol' Tom blend that has a mix of #10's and #8's that I wanna try.
Title: Re: 20 Gauge TSS: #8.5 or 9 Shot?
Post by: Snood Life on January 20, 2023, 09:41:05 PM
I prefer 9s.