you here everybody bragging about killing Jake's theres two laws in VA i wish would change 1 is Hope to hunt on sunday the other is to make illegal to kill Jake's to me its like killing fawn deer then people say its alright for kids to but aren't we teaching them to kill baby animals instead of waiting on a adult and when you get these so called great hunters that say its a legal bird .yes it is but its not the same as killing a 3 year old so in my opinion if your going to call yourself a turkey hunter let the Jake's walk and grow dontpull the trigger just to say you killed a turkey :newmascot:
Oh boy ;D
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On the other hand only kill Jakes, and let the mature ones get bigger like culling. :you_rock:
Quote from: Jay on June 16, 2011, 01:47:07 PM
On the other hand only kill Jakes, and let the mature ones get bigger like culling. :you_rock:
What happens when they get as big as an emu?
Quote from: boyhowdy on June 16, 2011, 01:48:47 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 16, 2011, 01:47:07 PM
On the other hand only kill Jakes, and let the mature ones get bigger like culling. :you_rock:
What happens when they get as big as an emu?
Put the 7's away and get out the double 00
Sorry Outlaw
gobblerD is the expert on this subject !! :newmascot:
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Quote from: Jay on June 16, 2011, 01:47:07 PM
On the other hand only kill Jakes, and let the mature ones get bigger like culling. :you_rock:
What happens when they get as big as an emu?
Put the 7's away and get out the double 00
:icon_thumright: Exactly.
This is going to get ugly.. :jackson:
oh boy oh boy oh boy :bday:
Outlaw, might as well make your next thread about how absurd hunting turkeys in the fall is.... let's get it hoppin' in here! LoL
And I thought that horse was dead and burried!
:deadhorse:
JAKES IS ALL THAT CAME IN TO ME THIS YEAR AND I KILLED ONE OF THEM.......I did call 2 nice gobblers in for a vip BUD and he killed his 1st. bird EVER and i called his 2nd bird in and he killed it to......i am GLADE THE JAKES WERE THERE FOR ME !!!!!!!
AND YES I KILLED A JAKE !!!
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Quote from: GOLD HUNTER on June 16, 2011, 02:29:03 PM
JAKES IS ALL THAT CAME IN TO ME THIS YEAR AND I KILLED ONE OF THEM.......I did call 2 nice gobblers in for a vip BUD and he killed his 1st. bird EVER and i called his 2nd bird in and he killed it to......i am GLADE THE JAKES WERE THERE FOR ME !!!!!!!
AND YES I KILLED A JAKE
And I want to say to you............ Congratulations!!!!!! :anim_65:
No ones business what you kill as long as you paid for the tag, who am I or anyone to say what you should or shouldn't shoot???
Quote from: GOLD HUNTER on June 16, 2011, 02:29:03 PM
JAKES IS ALL THAT CAME IN TO ME THIS YEAR AND I KILLED ONE OF THEM.......I did call 2 nice gobblers in for a vip BUD and he killed his 1st. bird EVER and i called his 2nd bird in and he killed it to......i am GLADE THE JAKES WERE THERE FOR ME !!!!!!!
AND YES I KILLED A JAKE !!!
I'LL POST IT HERE TO !!!!!
:TrainWreck1: Here we go again. Kinda makes me long fot the CRazy Canuck. Anybody remember him.
Quote from: redarrow on June 16, 2011, 03:30:01 PM
:TrainWreck1: Here we go again. Kinda makes me long fot the CRazy Canuck. Anybody remember him.
Oh yeah....He was a blast. :D
Does a jake eat as good as a fawn? :toothy12:
Quote from: Basser69 on June 16, 2011, 03:44:24 PM
Does a jake eat as good as a fawn? :toothy12:
I'm trying to get a group together for a weekend of baby seal clubbing. Anybody interested?? Mike ;)
gobblerd says even old bucks taste like fawns if you get them in August before they rub off the velvet and get in a hormone rage
Quote from: drenalinld on June 16, 2011, 03:59:55 PM
gobblerd says even old bucks taste like fawns if you get them in August before they rub off the velvet and get in a hormone rage
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
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I only shoot Jakes two at a time, out of a blind, over deke's and with a rifle. Unless of course I'm able to get close enough to blow them off the limb before flydown.
Quote from: guesswho on June 16, 2011, 05:57:34 PM
I only shoot Jakes two at a time, out of a blind, over deke's and with a rifle. Unless of course I'm able to get close enough to blow them off the limb before flydown.
...in August!
I could care less what anyone on here thinks (good or bad), I will kill a jake if legal. I think a 6 month old deer is very tender and tasty. I will kill what i please, that is legal, and to me it will be a trophy. Trophy hunters to me are what is wrong with this sport!
If it is your property and you say no jakes, I will oblige. On my property or public property..... Gobble like a man, Die like a man.
If'n I hear him gobble and if he is at least a five-year old or more, then I go ahead and call him in to take a look see. Then I study them spurs and his beard. If'n he don't have at least inch-an-three quarters spurs and a thirteen inch beard, then I let him walk. You boyz should learn to do the same as me...if'n your any good, that is......
:newmascot:
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Quote from: guesswho on June 16, 2011, 05:57:34 PM
I only shoot Jakes two at a time, out of a blind, over deke's and with a rifle. Unless of course I'm able to get close enough to blow them off the limb before flydown.
...in August!
And over corn on property bought by the N"WTF"!
Im waiting on GobblerDjakeman to chime in !!! :newmascot:
Quote from: guesswho on June 16, 2011, 06:16:48 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on June 16, 2011, 06:07:52 PM
Quote from: guesswho on June 16, 2011, 05:57:34 PM
I only shoot Jakes two at a time, out of a blind, over deke's and with a rifle. Unless of course I'm able to get close enough to blow them off the limb before flydown.
...in August!
And over corn on property bought by the N"WTF"!
I knew that was comin'! :D ;D
:TooFunny:
I suppose all you jake killers wouldn't be opposed to whacking a few baldies either ::) .
Outlaw, I'd be much more troubled with them blasting turkeys to bits with rifles in your state than shooting a jake.
I called in 25 jakes this spring and didn't shoot any but ended up not killing nothing for the first time in 17 years! And thinking about the reason i love this sport is to hear the gobble and watch them strut really the length of the beard shouldn't ruin the hunt. Not saying shoot everyone you see but honostly i believe i would rather kill a jake that came in gobbling and struttin than a long beard that came in silent! Plus all of them taste good on the grill.
Doug
Quote from: 2ounce6s on June 16, 2011, 07:10:07 PM
Quote from: guesswho on June 16, 2011, 06:16:48 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on June 16, 2011, 06:07:52 PM
Quote from: guesswho on June 16, 2011, 05:57:34 PM
I only shoot Jakes two at a time, out of a blind, over deke's and with a rifle. Unless of course I'm able to get close enough to blow them off the limb before flydown.
...in August!
And over corn on property bought by the N"WTF"!
And with an electronic call....
On Sunday
Quote from: guesswho on June 16, 2011, 08:35:18 PM
Quote from: 2ounce6s on June 16, 2011, 07:10:07 PM
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Quote from: stinkpickle on June 16, 2011, 06:07:52 PM
Quote from: guesswho on June 16, 2011, 05:57:34 PM
I only shoot Jakes two at a time, out of a blind, over deke's and with a rifle. Unless of course I'm able to get close enough to blow them off the limb before flydown.
...in August!
And over corn on property bought by the N"WTF"!
And with an electronic call....
On Sunday
Afternoon
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Quote from: stinkpickle on June 16, 2011, 06:07:52 PM
Quote from: guesswho on June 16, 2011, 05:57:34 PM
I only shoot Jakes two at a time, out of a blind, over deke's and with a rifle. Unless of course I'm able to get close enough to blow them off the limb before flydown.
...in August!
And over corn on property bought by the N"WTF"!
And with an electronic call....
On Sunday
Afternoon
as they make their way to roost...
With tss #9's out of a 20 gauge
Quote from: gobblerD on June 16, 2011, 09:58:31 PM
Jakes are hard to kill ... Heres me and Vahunter going to lunch. We just couldn't shake these mature Jakes.
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DID YOU SAY ...... YOU AND VAHUNTER :o ? ? ? ? NOW IM GOING TO BE SICK!!! :bike2:
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Quote from: 2ounce6s on June 16, 2011, 07:10:07 PM
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Quote from: stinkpickle on June 16, 2011, 06:07:52 PM
Quote from: guesswho on June 16, 2011, 05:57:34 PM
I only shoot Jakes two at a time, out of a blind, over deke's and with a rifle. Unless of course I'm able to get close enough to blow them off the limb before flydown.
...in August!
while on the roost. pulling jakes out of trees is one of my favorite past times
And over corn on property bought by the N"WTF"!
And with an electronic call....
On Sunday
Afternoon
as they make their way to roost...
You are a thousand percent correct.If you kill all the jakes on your lease this year and have a bad hatch ,then you won't have anything to hunt next year. .Jakes are by nature your next years gobbler. I haven't shot a jake in more than 25 years and will never kill another bitty,why ? Because that's your next years gobbler.I won't shoot one on public land either.Wait for a bitty to grow into a gobbler before you kill him!
Shooting a jake in the spring is not the same as shooting a fawn, it's the same as shooting a 1 1/2 year old spike or 4 point. I'm wondering how many would shoot a yearling buck but not a jake?
i bet a bunch of them would kill yearling bucks these boys around home kill yearling bucks before their that big dont you love these great hunters :wav: :newmascot:
Thanks gobblerDjakeman !!! :newmascot:
Quote from: timbrhuntr on June 16, 2011, 07:09:47 PM
I suppose all you jake killers wouldn't be opposed to whacking a few baldies either ::) .
I shot a Jake two years ago on the last day of the season, he tasted good when we cooked him for some reason nobody could tell the difference.
I have thought about shooting a Bald Eagle but I have seen what they eat and I am sure they taste like fish and week old dead deer.
If you follow the game laws of your state why the controversy, If you think shooting Jakes should be illeagle the write your state legislators and have them change the law.
If we keep this post going , we can give GobblerD a chance to change his mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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outlaw came in and said they wont let him login anymore thats not right
Quote from: saint on June 17, 2011, 12:30:19 PM
outlaw came in and said they wont let him login anymore thats not right
What??? for real?
that's for them dead horse thread starters, but i hope he can get back on
Quote from: gobblerD on June 17, 2011, 09:16:49 AM
Reasons to not kill Jakes:
They still have egg tooth on beak.
They will be older next year.
They are NOT a challenge.
They don't eat as good as a Piggly Wiggly Turkey for $10.00.
You can't brag about it to your friends.
You send wrong message to youngins
If you shoot alot of them you might start shooting poults
If you shoot the Jake you won't be able to call in anything else the rest of the season. ;D
Reasons to kill Jakes:
You can make a jake nub neckless out of their spurs.
You can limit out every year the first morning.
you can have a user name "Jakeanator"
You can go for your Jake Grand Slam!
You can get a Jake mount for your trophy room.
Outfitters can offer a weekend Jake special.
Jakes are the only Turkey you can accurately age ;D
I vote GobblerD for being the OG Entertainer of the Year
Quote from: LaBiologist on June 16, 2011, 06:12:42 PM
I could care less what anyone on here thinks (good or bad), I will kill a jake if legal. I think a 6 month old deer is very tender and tasty. I will kill what i please, that is legal, and to me it will be a trophy. Trophy hunters to me are what is wrong with this sport!
If it is your property and you say no jakes, I will oblige. On my property or public property..... Gobble like a man, Die like a man.
Just a quick point of clarity for the "biologist"? Jakes do not gobble like men. Although I'll agree that occasionally I've called in and walked a Jake that sounded like a gobbler, the majority of them have a distinct and very identifiable gobble. So again, it does not sound like a man. In fact, it sounds like an idiot.
Quote from: 2ounce6s on June 17, 2011, 01:52:35 PMI've called in quite a few jakes that gobbled "like a man"
I'm relatively new to turkey hunting, but the exact same thing happened to me this year while on a hunt with my veteran pal who helped me get started. He had 2 longbeards working to him 2 days before and a guy ran them off on a 4 wheeler. 2 days later, we get on 2 gobbling "toms" in the same vicinity gobbling like crazy....didn't sound a bit different than the longbeards we fooled with this year. He called them in, saw them before I did and realized they were jakes, and didn't tell me any different as I smoked one of them's heads (all I could see) at about 30 yards. Not until he saw them, did he realize they were jakes. I never knew the difference til we walked up to my bird.
JUST an FYI update....
Outlaw and Saint were the same person...
we took care of that.....
Annie
Quote from: 2ounce6s on June 17, 2011, 02:16:51 PMCongrats on a great hunt bud! I bet the old thumper was a beating pretty hard wasn't it? That's what it's all about really.
I ended up calling up and killing 2 longbeards by myself as well as the jake kill. The thumper was in full swing on every single one...not a bit of difference in the thrill of the hunt. All 3 encounters were like what I imagine crack cocaine would be like.
Quote from: OldHen on June 17, 2011, 02:24:15 PM
JUST an FYI update....
Outlaw and Saint were the same person...
we took care of that.....
Annie
You tore him in half??? :TooFunny:
Quote from: mnturkey on June 17, 2011, 09:50:24 AM
Quote from: timbrhuntr on June 16, 2011, 07:09:47 PM
I suppose all you jake killers wouldn't be opposed to whacking a few baldies either ::) .
I have thought about shooting a Bald Eagle but I have seen what they eat and I am sure they taste like fish and week old dead deer.
Bald Eagle is fishy tasting, but not nearly as bad as Great Blue Heron or Osprey. Now if you want good eats, go straight to the Whooping Crane. BBQ'ed or deep fried. It don't matter which..Mike
Quote from: 2ounce6s on June 17, 2011, 01:52:35 PM
Getting off subject but that's the fun of a thread like this so here goes.....
I've called in quite a few jakes that gobbled "like a man". At least one or two each and every season. Turkey hunted a while now and I've come to the conclusion I cannot always determine if it's a jake gobble or a adult tom gobbling. Just been fooled way to many times. Sometimes even the reverse has been true. These are two of three birds that came in behind me as I called to what I thought was a dominant loud deep gobbling tom out in front of me this past season. I was convinced they were a group of jakes I'd passed on a week before at the same location due to their "distinct" gobbles. Both had 1 1/16" spurs if that means anything. ::)
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2ounce6's
Great pic of 2 nice gobblers !!
vaturkey :newmascot:
Quote from: OldHen on June 17, 2011, 02:24:15 PM
JUST an FYI update....
Outlaw and Saint were the same person...
we took care of that.....
Annie
I told some folks the other night via pm's I thought they were one and the same. They both had that same distinct gooble. It's hard to hide.................never mind, I won't go there. He should have deleted those two screen names and went with Taint. Taint Outlaw, and Taint Saint.
Oh, and Jakes are for Rookie's and part timers! ;D J/K If a Jake makes you happy then I'm happy for ya! Just have fun.
Quote from: Hognutz on June 17, 2011, 03:06:10 PM
Quote from: mnturkey on June 17, 2011, 09:50:24 AM
Quote from: timbrhuntr on June 16, 2011, 07:09:47 PM
I suppose all you jake killers wouldn't be opposed to whacking a few baldies either ::) .
I have thought about shooting a Bald Eagle but I have seen what they eat and I am sure they taste like fish and week old dead deer.
Bald Eagle is fishy tasting, but not nearly as bad as Great Blue Heron or Osprey. Now if you want good eats, go straight to the Whooping Crane. BBQ'ed or deep fried. It don't matter which..Mike
Sorry for the misconception but where I hunt they call doe's baldies because they don't have anything on their heads like antlers.
I guess that one went over like the proverbial lead ballon.
As long as it's legal then there's no reason someone shouldn't shoot a jake if they want to. Lots of 2 year olds are no smarter than a jake, especially early in the season.
Part of the problem with our sport is that it's becoming nothing more than yachting with a shotgun. Whoever spends the most money wins. Who's a better hunter, the guy who shoots a jake on public land or the guy who pays $6,000 for a grand slam where the only skill involved is being able to walk to the preset blind where some guide has roosted a gobbler that hasn't heard a call all year and shoooting him after he runs in and stands next to your decoy?
Jealous ?
Oh and by the way its legal to shoot birds off the roost where I hunt. Should I? After all if its legal its okay right?
Quote from: saint on June 17, 2011, 12:30:19 PM
outlaw came in and said they wont let him login anymore thats not right
Are you for real? What kind of game are you playin'? ???
Quote from: 2ounce6s on June 17, 2011, 04:44:19 PM
GobbD,
You don' et many tuckees do ya? Them ol' ones is stringy. :TooFunny:
vaturkey,
Thanks friend.
Stringy? He must be using that fish hook method. I guess you could release the Jakes that way.
You're killin' me, GobblerD. :TooFunny: I am a charter member of Jakes-or-Nothin'.com. My name there is ''Three Long Feathers/Beard optional''..I guess I won't be recruiting you, any time soon..Keep up the good work..Mike
Probably because of the size of our birds in the midwest, you cannot tell the difference in Gobbles between many Jakes and Toms. I had 4 Gobblers walk by me towards my son's calling booming Gobble after Gobble. It was defeaning at 20 yards away. Count on the group was 2 Jakes and 2 Toms, and absolutely no difference in sound from one to another. ;D They left minus one Tom.
Quote from: saint on June 17, 2011, 12:30:19 PM
outlaw came in and said they wont let him login anymore thats not right
I thought you were the same guys. You both had a unique way of not using punctuation. Curious why you felt you needed to be 2 people on here. Split personality?
Quote from: Jay on June 17, 2011, 06:20:24 PM
Quote from: saint on June 17, 2011, 12:30:19 PM
outlaw came in and said they wont let him login anymore thats not right
I thought you were the same guys. You both had a unique way of not using punctuation. Curious why you felt you needed to be 2 people on here. Split personality?
No lifeguard on duty in the gene pool on the day "they" were concieved!
Quote from: chatterbox on June 17, 2011, 06:30:41 PM
No lifeguard on duty in the gene pool on the day "they" were concieved!
Whats scary is that out of that pool they were the fastest swimmers.
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Quote from: chatterbox on June 17, 2011, 06:30:41 PM
No lifeguard on duty in the gene pool on the day "they" were concieved!
Whats scary is that out of that pool they were the fastest swimmers.
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The whole issue of to shoot or not shoot should not even be brought up. Wildlife agencies set an amount of gobblers to be harvested each year, with up to 30 percent of the gobblers being harvested in a state an acceptable percentage. Usually it is not limited to longbeards but a bearded bird is all that is required of the hunter. Therefore Wildlife agencies don't distinguish which so why should we. I trap, do you? I don't bear hunt, do you? I don't chase sauger in the spring, do you? We should encourage each other in the sport or sports we love! Leave those arguments to anti hunters, we dont need to disagree over absurd stuff. I haved killed jakes, but I target longbeards and pass many jakes. I like the challenge, but thats just me. If your tags say you can kill a jake, thats your business, tag out on them each year if you want, just get out there and hunt. Some people think its wrong because they think they are the next Michael Wadell. If you kill a jake off the property you hunt, you might have taken a longbeard for yourself to hunt the next year, maybe, or a coyote might get him before then too. Follow the laws and kill what you want.
Quote from: timbrhuntr on June 17, 2011, 03:45:16 PM
Jealous ?
Oh and by the way its legal to shoot birds off the roost where I hunt. Should I? After all if its legal its okay right?
Jealous lmao
What are you a little school girl? He makes a great point. Let me say I don't shoot jakes but I would never tell someone they shouldn't. You guys are forgetting what makes turkey hunting better then deer hunting. Its that bird gobbling in your face at 30 yards. So what if the guy wants to shoot the Jake? You don't have to hunt with him. Truth is I don't even like shooting a 2 year old but theres no way to tell unless he's at 5 yards. Look at it like this a Jake is a spike and 2 year old is a 80" 6 point. Most would let him walk so why not let the 2 year olds walk?
Quote from: timbrhuntr on June 16, 2011, 07:09:47 PM
I suppose all you jake killers wouldn't be opposed to whacking a few baldies either ::) .
If you mean does, heck yes. I put 6 in my freezer last year. In fact the next publication I have to put together for LDWF is about why you need to kill does to improve the deer herd.
Quote from: FeatheredHat on June 17, 2011, 01:20:45 PM
Quote from: LaBiologist on June 16, 2011, 06:12:42 PM
I could care less what anyone on here thinks (good or bad), I will kill a jake if legal. I think a 6 month old deer is very tender and tasty. I will kill what i please, that is legal, and to me it will be a trophy. Trophy hunters to me are what is wrong with this sport!
If it is your property and you say no jakes, I will oblige. On my property or public property..... Gobble like a man, Die like a man.
Just a quick point of clarity for the "biologist"? Jakes do not gobble like men. Although I'll agree that occasionally I've called in and walked a Jake that sounded like a gobbler, the majority of them have a distinct and very identifiable gobble. So again, it does not sound like a man. In fact, it sounds like an idiot.
I'll take that as the jake sounds like an idiot. Personally I have yet to be able to tell the difference in a jake or mature gobble. I have killed both. There were times when I thought it was a jake, but turned out to be a big boy. Others I thought were big uns, but were jakes. Now if the idiot comment was directed at me.........well dems fightin words.
Alright guys time to move on here - Cabin Fever season is upon us and we would like for folks to observe the "Be Nice" rule
- The person who started the topic , had 2 bogus accounts plus tried to register another 3rd {bounced}
Lets move on -