Ms 2023 Spring Turkey Season and bag limit to remain the same as last year !!!
Kudos to MDWFP for not giving into the arm-chair biologists and non-killers whining they can't kill a bird and blaming it on populations. Sure wish Tennessee's wildlife commission would've heeded to the advice of the TWRA rather than giving into the angry mob of Chamberlites and the court of public opinion.
I' m sure Florida's FWC won't restrict non-res in any way. It's well into the :deadhorse: category down here. Still no fan of any State restricting the National Forest to any legal resident of the USA. Makes them only "kinda" National Forest.
As a life long MS resident, i think they should have changed the season to mirror surrounding states. there is a massive influx of out of state hunters from surrounding states in March
Quote from: wchadw on July 27, 2022, 03:25:15 PM
As a life long MS resident, i think they should have changed the season to mirror surrounding states. there is a massive influx of out of state hunters from surrounding states in March
I agree, and you can bet plenty of the non residents will draw. Neither me, my brother or nephew drew public land this last season.
Ms resident also and I have wanted the season pushed back for some time now but the last few years I have i have killed the first few days..
Quote from: wchadw on July 27, 2022, 03:25:15 PM
As a life long MS resident, i think they should have changed the season to mirror surrounding states. there is a massive influx of out of state hunters from surrounding states in March
And what happens when those same states move their seasons back again?
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on July 27, 2022, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: wchadw on July 27, 2022, 03:25:15 PM
As a life long MS resident, i think they should have changed the season to mirror surrounding states. there is a massive influx of out of state hunters from surrounding states in March
And what happens when those same states move their seasons back again?
I'd be fine with MS doing same. Right now MS opens 2 weeks before LA AL TN AR and hunters from all neighboring states run over to MS so they can hunt. A couple of those states didn't do anything in their state and the hunting there has suffered greatly due to over harvesting and poor production of young birds
I'd also be fine with lowering bag limit
Is there anyone on this thread that lives in MS that likes them keeping season same??
I'm 50 and the turkey population all over the state in my opinion has severely declined since the 90s
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Quote from: wchadw on July 27, 2022, 07:12:43 PM
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on July 27, 2022, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: wchadw on July 27, 2022, 03:25:15 PM
As a life long MS resident, i think they should have changed the season to mirror surrounding states. there is a massive influx of out of state hunters from surrounding states in March
And what happens when those same states move their seasons back again?
I'd be fine with MS doing same. Right now MS opens 2 weeks before LA AL TN AR and hunters from all neighboring states run over to MS so they can hunt. A couple of those states didn't do anything in their state and the hunting there has suffered greatly due to over harvesting and poor production of young birds
I'd also be fine with lowering bag limit
Is there anyone on this thread that lives in MS that likes them keeping season same??
I'm 50 and the turkey population all over the state in my opinion has severely declined since the 90s
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So what about the people in south MS where the first part of the season is often times the best part and later is the season the birds are mostly done with breeding?
Season should be pushed back 2 weeks IMO
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on July 28, 2022, 09:29:52 AM
Quote from: wchadw on July 27, 2022, 07:12:43 PM
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on July 27, 2022, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: wchadw on July 27, 2022, 03:25:15 PM
As a life long MS resident, i think they should have changed the season to mirror surrounding states. there is a massive influx of out of state hunters from surrounding states in March
And what happens when those same states move their seasons back again?
I'd be fine with MS doing same. Right now MS opens 2 weeks before LA AL TN AR and hunters from all neighboring states run over to MS so they can hunt. A couple of those states didn't do anything in their state and the hunting there has suffered greatly due to over harvesting and poor production of young birds
I'd also be fine with lowering bag limit
Is there anyone on this thread that lives in MS that likes them keeping season same??
I'm 50 and the turkey population all over the state in my opinion has severely declined since the 90s
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So what about the people in south MS where the first part of the season is often times the best part and later is the season the birds are mostly done with breeding?
I'm in central MS so won't be much different. It will give birds time to breed without pressure
So I've seen you applauding GA and AL for changing their season. What is the difference?
Are you a Mississippi resident? Or an out of state hunter??
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I have applouded states for taking action to better the hunting for their residents. Pushing back of seasonS has no proof of helping breeding. Thats a theory push by chamberlain that he doesn't even have scientific evidence that it works. At no point should a state take away the opportunities of residents before taking action against non residents. If it's to crowded the first part of season because of the influx nonresident hunters then push back the start date for nonresidents first before taking away from all.
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on July 28, 2022, 03:02:03 PM
I have applouded states for taking action to better the hunting for their residents. Pushing back of seasonS has no proof of helping breeding. Thats a theory push by chamberlain that he doesn't even have scientific evidence that it works. At no point should a state take away the opportunities of residents before taking action against non residents. If it's to crowded the first part of season because of the influx nonresident hunters then push back the start date for nonresidents first before taking away from all.
So... what's the difference in AL? Did they not change their season? I agree, states should focus on opportunity for state resident hunters.
I disagree that hunting pressure doesn't interrupt breeding. dominance is established before breeding starts. if dominant bird is killed, the cycle starts over for hens to decide which tom to breed.
What proof out there, besides one fame seeking biologist
that wants to prove his theory is right, that says disrupting the breeding process in the early part of the season is a major factor in the turkeys decline? Matter of fact look at the states that have pushed their seasons back? Are u seeing this great rebound in populations? Nope. Its all about predators not some theory about dominant birds getting killed to early.
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on July 28, 2022, 04:42:32 PM
What proof out there, besides one fame seeking biologist
that wants to prove his theory is right, that says disrupting the breeding process in the early part of the season is a major factor in the turkeys decline? Matter of fact look at the states that have pushed their seasons back? Are u seeing this great rebound in populations? Nope. Its all about predators not some theory about dominant birds getting killed to early.
Only states I know of is AL and TN and they just did it.
Not saying that's only reason but it has some effects
So what's difference in AL? That you were saying is great vs MS? AL pushed their season back
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Quote from: wchadw on July 28, 2022, 04:52:15 PM
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on July 28, 2022, 04:42:32 PM
What proof out there, besides one fame seeking biologist
that wants to prove his theory is right, that says disrupting the breeding process in the early part of the season is a major factor in the turkeys decline? Matter of fact look at the states that have pushed their seasons back? Are u seeing this great rebound in populations? Nope. Its all about predators not some theory about dominant birds getting killed to early.
Only states I know of is AL and TN and they just did it.
Not saying that's only reason but it has some effects
So what's difference in AL? That you were saying is great vs MS? AL pushed their season back
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Our neighbors to the west have been pushing their season back for awhile and look what has taken place there. Well Banning the use of male decoys the first 10 days was huge and needs to be for the while season.
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on July 28, 2022, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: wchadw on July 28, 2022, 04:52:15 PM
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on July 28, 2022, 04:42:32 PM
What proof out there, besides one fame seeking biologist
that wants to prove his theory is right, that says disrupting the breeding process in the early part of the season is a major factor in the turkeys decline? Matter of fact look at the states that have pushed their seasons back? Are u seeing this great rebound in populations? Nope. Its all about predators not some theory about dominant birds getting killed to early.
Only states I know of is AL and TN and they just did it.
Not saying that's only reason but it has some effects
So what's difference in AL? That you were saying is great vs MS? AL pushed their season back
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Our neighbors to the west have been pushing their season back for awhile and look what has taken place there. Well Banning the use of male decoys the first 10 days was huge and needs to be for the while season.
Male decoys generally aren't used on public land.
It's more about limiting hunter numbers by pushing MS season to open same as surrounding states.
Once again, what's different with AL change that you are posting is great vs changing MS season dates??
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Its in ur reply dude. Ban of male decoys is what im praising. Needs to be the whole season. And don't kid urself ive seen way to many people lugging around strutter dekes on public land.
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on July 28, 2022, 05:20:26 PM
Its in ur reply dude. Ban of male decoys is what im praising. Needs to be the whole season. And don't kid urself ive seen way to many people lugging around strutter dekes on public land.
Right.
I'm guessing you are not a MS resident. Since I asked several times with no answer.
AL pushed their season back. Limiting only male decoys is only going to save birds from bad hunters for 10 days. I doubt this will have little if no effect especially on public land.
My opinion MS should limit all out of state hunters to a certain number of tags on a draw system or archery only tags. South Dakota did this and has had great success
Otherwise the MSDWFP should push opener back to be same dates as AL TN LA or close
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Quote from: wchadw on July 28, 2022, 05:31:47 PM
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on July 28, 2022, 05:20:26 PM
Its in ur reply dude. Ban of male decoys is what im praising. Needs to be the whole season. And don't kid urself ive seen way to many people lugging around strutter dekes on public land.
My opinion MS should limit all out of state hunters to a certain number of tags on a draw system or archery only tags.
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This past spring, Mississippi started limiting non-residents the first 2 weeks of the season on public land through a draw system. Alabama could have did something similar, but instead chose to take away opportunity from all by pushing most public land openers back to April 1.
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on July 28, 2022, 07:51:50 PM
Quote from: wchadw on July 28, 2022, 05:31:47 PM
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on July 28, 2022, 05:20:26 PM
Its in ur reply dude. Ban of male decoys is what im praising. Needs to be the whole season. And don't kid urself ive seen way to many people lugging around strutter dekes on public land.
My opinion MS should limit all out of state hunters to a certain number of tags on a draw system or archery only tags.
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This past spring, Mississippi started limiting non-residents the first 2 weeks of the season on public land through a draw system. Alabama could have did something similar, but instead chose to take away opportunity from all by pushing most public land openers back to April 1.
Yes. I am aware of this for last season Assuming everyone plays by the rules.
From what I understand this is about like the mandatory harvest reporting.
There are some that do. And apparently a lot that don't.
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