Been hunting this week on WMAs around Chadron and birds have disappeared.
Found 3 gobblers on Private land but none on public.
I thought only the Southeast was experiencing a population decline. This is nothing like remember from 15 years ago.
Chadron has birds in every canyon. If u can't kill one there u can't cluck.
The internet and social media. Area used to have carryover, very little now. A few bad hatches in a row and it's really gonna be hurting. Then folks will start blabbing about the next best area and hunters will migrate there.
Yep. I heard the campgrounds last year looked like the circus had come to town. I talked to two separate groups that went there and left after just seeing how many people were there.
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Posts like this are what happened...name the location you are hunting over and over and people are going to go there.
Same thing happened with deer to Nebraska, ND and KY- every dude with a YT channel goes to those states for archery opener since its earlier then most- its insane how many videos come out.
In all seriousness this forum, other forums, social medias, youtube, and whatever else there is out their happened to that area. People just can't keep their mouths shut. They find a good thing and want to tell everyone. It's my opinion a lot of people do it to make themselves sound like some great amazing hunter. And it's happening all over the USA now. What happened to going to place, having a good hunt , and leaving it at that. Let's stop telling the whole damn world.
Now in Chadron you sadly have to walk farther than anyone is willing to. Birds are definitely more scarce but not gone....
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on April 26, 2022, 03:15:26 PM
In all seriousness this forum, other forums, social medias, youtube, and whatever else there is out their happened to that area. People just can't keep their mouths shut. They find a good thing and want to tell everyone. It's my opinion a lot of people do it to make themselves sound like some great amazing hunter. And it's happening all over the USA now. What happened to going to place, having a good hunt , and leaving it at that. Let's stop telling the whole damn world.
Yep. Bird hasn't even finished his death flaps and guys are already posting pics and stories on FB etc. so they can brag on it. Sickening.
The Far North East side of public in Chadron has been good to me the last few consecutive years, less hunters and plenty of birds. you just have to walk farther than most. good luck
Quote from: JohnSouth22 on April 26, 2022, 03:44:57 PM
The Far North East side of public in Chadron has been good to me the last few consecutive years, less hunters and plenty of birds. you just have to walk farther than most. good luck
Prime example right there.
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on April 26, 2022, 02:43:37 PM
The internet and social media.
^^^^^^^^
Absolutely THIS !!!!!!!!!
Quote from: JohnSouth22 on April 26, 2022, 03:44:57 PM
The Far North East side of public in Chadron has been good to me the last few consecutive years, less hunters and plenty of birds. you just have to walk farther than most. good luck
Won't be as good now that is for sure. I'm lucky to hunt private and bird numbers have held steady I believe the last few years. We are heading up for our annual trip (I am only two hours away) this weekend and weather is looking terrible. Lots of on and off moisture and lots of wind. Saturday will be gusts to 55 mph.
Quote from: JohnSouth22 on April 26, 2022, 03:44:57 PM
The Far North East side of public in Chadron has been good to me the last few consecutive years, less hunters and plenty of birds. you just have to walk farther than most. good luck
Not anymore, you just screwed yourself and that area by posting this. This thread will show up on every internet scouters google search from here on out. Unless it really isn't a very good area and you're throwing out some reverse psychology to throw people off. :icon_thumright:
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on April 26, 2022, 02:43:37 PM
The internet and social media. Area used to have carryover, very little now. A few bad hatches in a row and it's really gonna be hurting. Then folks will start blabbing about the next best area and hunters will migrate there.
:z-winnersmiley:
I was out there last year. Hotels were booked full and they all said cause of turkey hunters. I found a few birds but I'm not interested in going back
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Been hunting the Pine Ridge area since the mid 90's. Was up there earlier this spring and yes, something is wrong with the turkey population there. Way down in the areas I hunted. The population has been going steadily downhill as of late, but this is a drop off.
It's not just the NW part of the state. I hunt the SE part of Nebraska and I'm not seeing birds. This is the first year in over 7 years I haven't scored on opening weekend. Populations are definitely down, IMO. I think over hunting and predators are main reasons. There are rumors that Game & Parks is going to reduce the 3 bird limit and possibly raise non-resident fees for next year. I think that's very much needed. We've ruined a great thing.
I'll say the internet is definitely the issue. It also doesn't help with the three bird limit and the money the state of Nebraska puts into advertising. Seems like no matter what page I go to, there is an ad for Nebraska turkey hunting. I did try it out a few years ago later in the season just out of curiosity. Never heard a bird on public gobble. Spoke with a biologist and some other people that said they spot and stalk due to them not gobbling. I went through some amazing looking ground and never heard a peep. Have no plans to ever go back.
Not to hijack this thread, But another board I frequent has a NO HOTSPOTTING RULE, State names only. Threads get deleted and repeat offenders banned.
Quote from: tracker vi on April 27, 2022, 12:38:33 PM
Not to hijack this thread, But another board I frequent has a NO HOTSPOTTING RULE, State names only. Threads get deleted and repeat offenders banned.
See cyber scouting stickie at the top... :)
Quote from: GobbleNut on April 27, 2022, 12:47:16 PM
Quote from: tracker vi on April 27, 2022, 12:38:33 PM
Not to hijack this thread, But another board I frequent has a NO HOTSPOTTING RULE, State names only. Threads get deleted and repeat offenders banned.
See cyber scouting stickie at the top... :)
But is it enforced? This thread mainly has a negative aspect to it so not a real problem. But there is a post in here that should be deleted along with all the posts that quoted it..
I do realize there hasn't been much time yet for action yet.
You can't expect those domesticated Turkeys in them Western states to last very long in any place they tried to transplant them :z-guntootsmiley:
Same thing happened here a decade ago with the hotspotting. I remember someone on here saying Kansas was a place the internet killed. Chalk another up.
How about from now on it is only acceptable to say "east of the Mississippi" or "west of the Mississippi". Maybe start a forum police force? Some of these post are a real hoot. :TrainWreck1:
Hotspot Notice - The highest density of turkeys in the USA is in Washington DC. they are thick as flies on a road kill on a summer day. :funnyturkey:
Just an IMO but a one bird limit for all non-res in any state with a declining population is almost a no brainer. My current home state of Florida still allows two even though it seems the non-res outnumber the residents about 2 to 1 during the first week of the south (wiley Osceola) zone season. The $2500 per bird guides are more than happy to oblidge that 2nd bird. Seeing pictures, such as those displayed on other threads, with three or four guys buried in multiple dead birds is a real headshaker. What's the point? None in the pictures looked emaciated. They couldn't be that hungry for roast turkey or dumb enough not to realize not all would be thrilled with this display.
Guys ... I made a post on the top of the forum
When you post something up on the internet...that means the entire world sees it , that includes here , yt, Facebook whatever ....the time of social responsibility is upon us stop name dropping areas it has and will completely destroy areas with swarms of people who are watching
Soooo , we keep saying there's no name "area " dropping etc .
Yet the post is still here for everyone to see !.
I just don't get it !!!! Almost every you tuber is complaining on there shows about how many hunters are on the public there on ,, yet they tell you what state there in every other sentence!!
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on April 26, 2022, 03:15:26 PM
In all seriousness this forum, other forums, social medias, youtube, and whatever else there is out their happened to that area. People just can't keep their mouths shut. They find a good thing and want to tell everyone. It's my opinion a lot of people do it to make themselves sound like some great amazing hunter. And it's happening all over the USA now. What happened to going to place, having a good hunt , and leaving it at that. Let's stop telling the whole damn world.
I agree this is part of the problem. Did y'all listen to the turkey hunter podcast with Chubbs where he was talking about the guy sending one of his friends a bunch of pins. The guy didn't even know his friend but sent him a bunch of waypoints where gobblers were. That's just ridiculous and people doing that should be drug behind a horse. The need for social recognition is running strong in a lot of guys. I'm really hating all the hashtags #2 or #4 or #taggedout. Nobody cares!
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I'm glad i got to hunt that area before the internet and social media blew it up.
Quote from: Howie g on April 28, 2022, 07:07:24 AM
Soooo , we keep saying there's no name "area " dropping etc .
Yet the post is still here for everyone to see !.
I just don't get it !!!! Almost every you tuber is complaining on there shows about how many hunters are on the public there on ,, yet they tell you what state there in every other sentence!!
vapid people are usually stupid and often sociopaths
Quote from: aclawrence on April 28, 2022, 07:25:03 AM
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on April 26, 2022, 03:15:26 PM
In all seriousness this forum, other forums, social medias, youtube, and whatever else there is out their happened to that area. People just can't keep their mouths shut. They find a good thing and want to tell everyone. It's my opinion a lot of people do it to make themselves sound like some great amazing hunter. And it's happening all over the USA now. What happened to going to place, having a good hunt , and leaving it at that. Let's stop telling the whole damn world.
I agree this is part of the problem. Did y'all listen to the turkey hunter podcast with Chubbs where he was talking about the guy sending one of his friends a bunch of pins. The guy didn't even know his friend but sent him a bunch of waypoints where gobblers were. That's just ridiculous and people doing that should be drug behind a horse. The need for social recognition is running strong in a lot of guys. I'm really hating all the hashtags #2 or #4 or #taggedout. Nobody cares!
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Just ran into a guy the other day that said he learned about the spot we were at from a non-resident he ran into the previous year sending him a pin. Wonder if that non-resident guy gives up pins to his spots in his own state. Doubt it....
Not sure what's worse, being the spot burner or the one accepting handouts instead of working to find birds on their own. Some will read this and say "it's public land, I'll share it with however many people I want, you're just being greedy." Let me know how that works out for you on your home turf.
I understand it's just the world we live in now with the internet/social media share culture but how about a little thought about what kind of impact your actions have. Traveling to hunt because you choose to is all well and good. But if you find yourself traveling because there aren't many turkeys left in your area you have no one to blame but yourself for fostering the pin me mentality. Others have said it before, we're our own worst enemy.
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I've never understood why you would want to just give away the location of a good hunting spot to total strangers, whether in your home state or another state!
I mean, you all are great folks, and I enjoy this forum immensely...but I'm not giving away my spots!
Quote from: TonyTurk on April 28, 2022, 09:06:59 PM
I've never understood why you would want to just give away the location of a good hunting spot to total strangers, whether in your home state or another state!
I mean, you all are great folks, and I enjoy this forum immensely...but I'm not giving away my spots!
I need the validation of strangers I'll never meet, please don't deny me
that. 6 people like this. :icon_thumright: What a screwed up world we
live in.
Every online turkey forum, Facebook turkey hunter group, and state advertisement for the last 5-6 years have all been screaming Chadron, Chadron, Chadron!! The area has been flooded with hunters and if a gobbler dares gobble or strut in an open area, he dies. They've all been shot to death and have no adult male carryover year to year thanks to overhunting. It's as simple as that.
The answer to all questions in life come down to: Work Harder
Just finished hunting around Chadron with my BIL & 2 sons. We all tagged out by Wednesday and are heading home. LOT'S of walking but they're there. Also seeing a lot of hunters on top of each other. Good area but heading to another state next year.
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So you're gonna hotspot it one more time? :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Quote from: bigriverbum on April 28, 2022, 07:12:16 PM
Quote from: Howie g on April 28, 2022, 07:07:24 AM
Soooo , we keep saying there's no name "area " dropping etc .
Yet the post is still here for everyone to see !.
I just don't get it !!!! Almost every you tuber is complaining on there shows about how many hunters are on the public there on ,, yet they tell you what state there in every other sentence!!
vapid people are usually stupid and often sociopaths
Confused ????
Quote from: aclawrence on April 28, 2022, 07:25:03 AM
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on April 26, 2022, 03:15:26 PM
In all seriousness this forum, other forums, social medias, youtube, and whatever else there is out their happened to that area. People just can't keep their mouths shut. They find a good thing and want to tell everyone. It's my opinion a lot of people do it to make themselves sound like some great amazing hunter. And it's happening all over the USA now. What happened to going to place, having a good hunt , and leaving it at that. Let's stop telling the whole damn world.
I agree this is part of the problem. Did y'all listen to the turkey hunter podcast with Chubbs where he was talking about the guy sending one of his friends a bunch of pins. The guy didn't even know his friend but sent him a bunch of waypoints where gobblers were. That's just ridiculous and people doing that should be drug behind a horse. The need for social recognition is running strong in a lot of guys. I'm really hating all the hashtags #2 or #4 or #taggedout. Nobody cares!
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don't think for one second any of these YouTubers are going anywhere blind .... They ain't
Quote from: Howie g on April 29, 2022, 09:12:59 AM
Quote from: bigriverbum on April 28, 2022, 07:12:16 PM
Quote from: Howie g on April 28, 2022, 07:07:24 AM
Soooo , we keep saying there's no name "area " dropping etc .
Yet the post is still here for everyone to see !.
I just don't get it !!!! Almost every you tuber is complaining on there shows about how many hunters are on the public there on ,, yet they tell you what state there in every other sentence!!
vapid people are usually stupid and often sociopaths
Confused ????
i'm confused or they are?
i'm agreeing with you brah
Quote from: bigriverbum on April 29, 2022, 09:29:00 PM
Quote from: Howie g on April 29, 2022, 09:12:59 AM
Quote from: bigriverbum on April 28, 2022, 07:12:16 PM
Quote from: Howie g on April 28, 2022, 07:07:24 AM
Soooo , we keep saying there's no name "area " dropping etc .
Yet the post is still here for everyone to see !.
I just don't get it !!!! Almost every you tuber is complaining on there shows about how many hunters are on the public there on ,, yet they tell you what state there in every other sentence!!
vapid people are usually stupid and often sociopaths
Confused ????
i'm confused or they are?
i'm agreeing with you brah
Oh ,, I guess I'm not use to people agreeing with me ! Lol