Title: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: Dhamilton1 on April 22, 2022, 11:47:37 AM
Post by: Dhamilton1 on April 22, 2022, 11:47:37 AM
Had a tom hammering across a little valley from me earlier. Was trying to work him but he was getting further away. Decided to get aggressive and back track then drop down in the valley and back up the other side to try and cut him off. Wrong move! 
Once I got where I thought he'd come, he hammered back on the other side where I just was. Hopefully I'll learn from this. Lol
"Curiosity kills the cat but impatience kills the turkey hunt".
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Once I got where I thought he'd come, he hammered back on the other side where I just was. Hopefully I'll learn from this. Lol"Curiosity kills the cat but impatience kills the turkey hunt".
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Title: Re: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: RutnNStrutn on April 22, 2022, 12:25:38 PM
Post by: RutnNStrutn on April 22, 2022, 12:25:38 PM
We've all been there and done that. It's a choice I have to make on almost every hunt. Should I stay or should I go after him? Sometimes I choose correctly but most times I don't. 
I've gone after him and gotten busted, gone after him and he moved to where I was, and I've sat tight and he walked away gobbling, and occasionally I sit tight or go after him, and I score. That's the frustrating game that is turkey hunting.
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I've gone after him and gotten busted, gone after him and he moved to where I was, and I've sat tight and he walked away gobbling, and occasionally I sit tight or go after him, and I score. That's the frustrating game that is turkey hunting.
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Title: Re: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: boatpaddle on April 22, 2022, 01:37:47 PM
Post by: boatpaddle on April 22, 2022, 01:37:47 PM
The gobblers knee are better then mine...
I'll sit & wait on him to come or not to come...
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I'll sit & wait on him to come or not to come...
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Title: Re: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: guesswho on April 22, 2022, 01:38:26 PM
Post by: guesswho on April 22, 2022, 01:38:26 PM
A lot of times the sound you make moving out is enough to get him to come in. If I decide to reposition I do it as quietly as I possibly can. If I decide to sit on him I'll make that same racket as if I got up and walked away and then go silent for a while to see his reaction. I and people hunting with me have killed several birds this way. How many times have you sat there and he has gone silent, only to gobble when you decide to get up and or take a couple steps? Ever wonder why?
Title: Re: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: Zobo on April 22, 2022, 08:37:31 PM
Post by: Zobo on April 22, 2022, 08:37:31 PM
You will learn from these kind of outings and you have already. You're right about impatience.
Title: Re: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: Bagg-it Tag-it on April 23, 2022, 08:01:22 AM
Post by: Bagg-it Tag-it on April 23, 2022, 08:01:22 AM
Quote from: guesswho on April 22, 2022, 01:38:26 PM
A lot of times the sound you make moving out is enough to get him to come in. If I decide to reposition I do it as quietly as I possibly can. If I decide to sit on him I'll make that same racket as if I got up and walked away and then go silent for a while to see his reaction. I and people hunting with me have killed several birds this way. How many times have you sat there and he has gone silent, only to gobble when you decide to get up and or take a couple steps? Ever wonder why?
Good advice
Title: Re: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: GobbleNut on April 23, 2022, 06:38:29 PM
Post by: GobbleNut on April 23, 2022, 06:38:29 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 22, 2022, 01:38:26 PM
A lot of times the sound you make moving out is enough to get him to come in. If I decide to reposition I do it as quietly as I possibly can. If I decide to sit on him I'll make that same racket as if I got up and walked away and then go silent for a while to see his reaction. I and people hunting with me have killed several birds this way. How many times have you sat there and he has gone silent, only to gobble when you decide to get up and or take a couple steps? Ever wonder why?
Does grunting and groaning trying to get up off the ground help or hurt with that tactic?... ;D ::)
Title: Re: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: guesswho on April 23, 2022, 06:44:16 PM
Post by: guesswho on April 23, 2022, 06:44:16 PM
Quote from: GobbleNut on April 23, 2022, 06:38:29 PMIt does during deer season, not so much during turkey season.Quote from: guesswho on April 22, 2022, 01:38:26 PM
A lot of times the sound you make moving out is enough to get him to come in. If I decide to reposition I do it as quietly as I possibly can. If I decide to sit on him I'll make that same racket as if I got up and walked away and then go silent for a while to see his reaction. I and people hunting with me have killed several birds this way. How many times have you sat there and he has gone silent, only to gobble when you decide to get up and or take a couple steps? Ever wonder why?
Does grunting and groaning trying to get up off the ground help or hurt with that tactic?... ;D ::)
Title: Re: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: Zobo on April 26, 2022, 07:37:40 PM
Post by: Zobo on April 26, 2022, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 22, 2022, 01:38:26 PM
A lot of times the sound you make moving out is enough to get him to come in. If I decide to reposition I do it as quietly as I possibly can. If I decide to sit on him I'll make that same racket as if I got up and walked away and then go silent for a while to see his reaction. I and people hunting with me have killed several birds this way. How many times have you sat there and he has gone silent, only to gobble when you decide to get up and or take a couple steps? Ever wonder why?
I will admit when I first read this take I thought it was a little nutty. But yesterday morning I think this exact scenario happened to me.
I was working a difficult Tom for a long while but he just wouldn't commit. He soon went quiet and I waited for a long while more, occasionally calling, hoping he would come back. After a while more, I got up to stretch my legs, make a phone call and gather my stuff. I looked over a small hill to my left and saw him and another coming straight at me. I was not being super quiet!
So I sat back down and got quiet and ready and of course they stop coming! I waited a little longer and then started hitting him with cluck after cluck on a trumpet. Some simple three note plain yelps and he finally shows over the hill.
I dont know if the sound of me leaving brought them toward me but it definitely didn't scare them off. Mabye it peaked their interest for some reason. Interesting because it certainly seems counterintuitive.
Title: Re: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: Zobo on April 26, 2022, 07:40:52 PM
Post by: Zobo on April 26, 2022, 07:40:52 PM
This is the stubborn gobbler I shot. Finished him with the L Stowe trumpet.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220426/91ee4196e154405438feb93f223e7ad4.jpg)
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Title: Re: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: Paulmyr on April 26, 2022, 08:44:19 PM
Post by: Paulmyr on April 26, 2022, 08:44:19 PM
Quote from: Zobo on April 26, 2022, 07:37:40 PMQuote from: guesswho on April 22, 2022, 01:38:26 PM
A lot of times the sound you make moving out is enough to get him to come in. If I decide to reposition I do it as quietly as I possibly can. If I decide to sit on him I'll make that same racket as if I got up and walked away and then go silent for a while to see his reaction. I and people hunting with me have killed several birds this way. How many times have you sat there and he has gone silent, only to gobble when you decide to get up and or take a couple steps? Ever wonder why?
I will admit when I first read this take I thought it was a little nutty. But yesterday morning I think this exact scenario happened to me.
I was working a difficult Tom for a long while but he just wouldn't commit. He soon went quiet and I waited for a long while more, occasionally calling, hoping he would come back. After a while more, I got up to stretch my legs, make a phone call and gather my stuff. I looked over a small hill to my left and saw him and another coming straight at me. I was not being super quiet!
So I sat back down and got quiet and ready and of course they stop coming! I waited a little longer and then started hitting him with cluck after cluck on a trumpet. Some simple three note plain yelps and he finally shows over the hill.
I dont know if the sound of me leaving brought them toward me but it definitely didn't scare them off. Mabye it peaked their interest for some reason. Interesting because it certainly seems counterintuitive.
Scratching the leaves can have the same effect without the need to get up and move around.
Title: Re: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: Zobo on April 26, 2022, 09:17:28 PM
Post by: Zobo on April 26, 2022, 09:17:28 PM
Yes, it makes sense if you look at it that way, hens scuffing around sounds. Ive always heard about that technique but never had the guts to try it. Maybe I'll try that next time, I'll skip the 6 minute phone call of course, lol!
Title: Re: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: guesswho on April 26, 2022, 10:24:16 PM
Post by: guesswho on April 26, 2022, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: Zobo on April 26, 2022, 07:37:40 PMQuote from: guesswho on April 22, 2022, 01:38:26 PMI will admit when I first read this take I thought it was a little nutty.[\quote]
A lot of times the sound you make moving out is enough to get him to come in. If I decide to reposition I do it as quietly as I possibly can. If I decide to sit on him I'll make that same racket as if I got up and walked away and then go silent for a while to see his reaction. I and people hunting with me have killed several birds this way. How many times have you sat there and he has gone silent, only to gobble when you decide to get up and or take a couple steps? Ever wonder why?
A lot of things that come out of my mouth turkey hunting related sounds a little nutty. :laugh:
Title: Re: Got too aggressive - lesson learned (hopefully)
Post by: Zobo on April 26, 2022, 11:05:00 PM
Post by: Zobo on April 26, 2022, 11:05:00 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 26, 2022, 10:24:16 PMQuote from: Zobo on April 26, 2022, 07:37:40 PMQuote from: guesswho on April 22, 2022, 01:38:26 PMI will admit when I first read this take I thought it was a little nutty.[\quote]
A lot of times the sound you make moving out is enough to get him to come in. If I decide to reposition I do it as quietly as I possibly can. If I decide to sit on him I'll make that same racket as if I got up and walked away and then go silent for a while to see his reaction. I and people hunting with me have killed several birds this way. How many times have you sat there and he has gone silent, only to gobble when you decide to get up and or take a couple steps? Ever wonder why?
A lot of things that come out of my mouth turkey hunting related sounds a little nutty. :laugh:
At least your not boring!
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