Do y'all agree with me that If someone else beats you to a spot just move on to the next? Dont be the guy in the video below. I'm curious how y'all handle these situations ??
https://youtu.be/dvO6zUwfxhg
I hunt a lot of public land, if I see that someone is in a area I pulled in, I just move on. No sense messing up each others hunt or fussing over a bird . I have my share of people messing my hunt up as well. Hope all of you have a fantastic season this year!
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I agree man majority of the people I run into on public are good people but there is a lot of disrespectful ones as well, glad to see you are one of those.
Quote from: Hogmister13 on February 07, 2022, 05:44:00 PM
Do y'all agree with me that If someone else beats you to a spot just move on to the next? Dont be the guy in the video below. I'm curious how y'all handle these situations ??
https://youtu.be/dvO6zUwfxhg
Try this out, buddy. Quit putting the name of the state in the videos like all of your YouTube idols do. Especially since basically everybody prefers that you not do that.
But hey, you love to "share" your hunts too much to leave out that minor detail, right?
Luckily I haven't had too many bad experiences but I've heard a lot of bad stories. I like to be able to roam around too much to park right beside somebody. I did have a couple guys park right down the road from me a couple years ago and tried to sneak into a bird I was working. The bird was almost in shotgun range and I heard a series of yelps behind me...and then I heard the exact same series and immediately knew it was a person. Two guys came right up behind me. They had no chance of killing that turkey and thanks to them I lost my chance as well.
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If the guy is gone I move on, if he's there I stop for a chat.
Most access points lead to a lot of ground!
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Quote from: St. Augustine Strutter on February 07, 2022, 06:18:52 PM
Quote from: Hogmister13 on February 07, 2022, 05:44:00 PM
Do y'all agree with me that If someone else beats you to a spot just move on to the next? Dont be the guy in the video below. I'm curious how y'all handle these situations ??
https://youtu.be/dvO6zUwfxhg
Try this out, buddy. Quit putting the name of the state in the videos like all of your YouTube idols do. Especially since basically everybody prefers that you not do that.
But hey, you love to "share" your hunts too much to leave out that minor detail, right?
Try this out "buddy" mind your own business. You can ask they don't include it all you want but the way you said that made u definitely look like a chode. I bet you tell the guy at Waffle House at 7:30 you didn't kill one that morning Bc of those "damn you tubers!" What a joke
I will put it in a nicer way. I am sure the people of the states you are traveling to would appreciate you not putting the state you are in. You are in a state that has cut its limit ,doing all kinds of studies , talking about shortening season and looks plenty crowded to me on public land. Why not just post your hunt and leave the name of state out of it just out of respect for the residents? You guys will regret It when more states start limiting non resident hunters and putting quotas in place. It's already happening. If it's all about just sharing the hunt , by all means share the hunt if you feel the need to do so, but why not just leave out the state you are in? Congrats on the nice Gobbler!
I ride on. Lots of people don't. It burns my butt when I have left my vehicle and I can hear or see someone pull in beside me. It only goes downhill from there!
Have had many issues in WV with people parking right beside me. I took a hiatus from public for several years because of it. Due to schedule/weather I hunted public about five years ago. I drove past maybe five vehicles, went about a mile OR so up the road and stopped. Just so happened I was on the bottom end of a good hollar and heard one gobble. I moved in. Was almost in position and heard a guy coming down the road, same direction as I did, past my truck maybe by hundred yards and stopped and started calling. Luckily the turkey never gobbled at him. I just shook my head, why would you do that. Why? It makes no sense.
I 100% respect pulling up to a spot and leaving if another vehicle is there. Simply put, if someone gets up early enough to be ahead of me, they are my kind of hunter. So far, I never had to move on. I require little sleep, so getting to my spots early is an understatement. I always have a plan B, being courteous to other hunters is always something I practice and preach. We are all a fraternity, strength in numbers will hopefully keep our sport going for generations to come...be safe, best of luck to all this season...
Quote from: St. Augustine Strutter on February 07, 2022, 06:18:52 PM
Quote from: Hogmister13 on February 07, 2022, 05:44:00 PM
Do y'all agree with me that If someone else beats you to a spot just move on to the next? Dont be the guy in the video below. I'm curious how y'all handle these situations ??
https://youtu.be/dvO6zUwfxhg
Try this out, buddy. Quit putting the name of the state in the videos like all of your YouTube idols do. Especially since basically everybody prefers that you not do that.
But hey, you love to "share" your hunts too much to leave out that minor detail, right?
In case you wanna see more....
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I respect all hunters in the woods . If I know you are there I turn around , if you are working a bird I might hide and listen , then leave or just leave . Duck hunting has taught me how to use parking places or access points . Many a deer hunt with the question which way you going . I usually drive past someone in a parking spot turkey hunting because if you park next to them you are apiece of ...... I guess my question is how many 500 acres do I give you , Do you own both sides of the road ? I have gotten up early to get my spot and get stepped on by hunters that heard the gobble and came from another access . I have witnessed arm conflicts with pistols by turkey hunters at public access parking . Some people feel they own them . Call me frustrated .To me the respect is in the woods much more than the truck . I pass a parking place due to a vehicle , move to the next and he runs and guns through me . But all is good because he parked in an empty spot .
I am sure I will be crucified for thinking if done properly you can park next to someone and share the woods . I am 65 years old , bought my first call in the 70's and get lectured about where I park . maybe I am getting grumpy . If I step on you in the woods I'm sorry , I spend as much time listening and looking for you as I do a bird . I much prefer your respect in the woods than at the truck . To many people think they done good by parking at the next spot and don't give you a second thought in the woods .
I have no problem sharing the woods , parking spot , a campfire or a pot of beans with other turkey hunters that have respect in the woods .
Dah and Hillclimber make 100% awesome points. It is about respect in the woods and not all public land is created equal. If a guy goes on a walk and runs into you, well he is there to hunt as you are. But we should respect each other in the woods. If someone is working a bird back off.
We do all own the ground, but nobody comes out the winner if we are battling against each other.
Questions.
If someone camps at a gate do they get the spot behind while they are camped there?
What if they just leave the camper there is it still theirs to expect to hunt alone?
What if when you roll in they are still lights out in bed?
Always variables and sceneries, never an easy answer to a question. All of our morals and ethics can lead us in different decisions. Respect in the end is a big factor in making decisions, lots of guys have 0 respect for others while in the woods. Their decisions will show that.
The OP in my opinion, opened a good question.
Some huge Public Land areas often have limited parking- although those few parking areas are large in size. Spring Hunters will have to park there near other Turkey Hunters . Just walk that 1 1/2 miles in early to find yourself a secluded area. Works for me.
Also in recent years- the Hikers,Mountain Bikers, even Dog Walkers like to get out at Dawn to see + hear the Wildlife. The days of them starting to show up at 9.30am are long gone.
Public Land is just that.
Too many variables in this topic. Many of the public land parking areas will have a main trail that branches into several other trails that may branch into other trails etc etc. Saw this often in LBL Kentucky and most all National Forest anywhere that I've hunted. One guy that sleeps in his truck all night at a trail head doesn't get to call "dibs" on the entire woods. Starting to hear some local grumbling about getting passed on foot trails by the new breed of electric biker but that can be another subject.
Quote from: joey46 on February 08, 2022, 03:46:05 AM
Too many variables in this topic. Many of the public land parking areas will have a main trail that branches into several other trails that may branch into other trails etc etc. Saw this often in LBL Kentucky and most all National Forest anywhere that I've hunted. One guy that sleeps in his truck all night at a trail head doesn't get to call "dibs" on the entire woods. Starting to hear some local grumbling about getting passed on foot trails by the new breed of electric biker but that can be another subject.
Agreed , it depends on what's beyond said gate . If the area behind gate is one big ridge or holler , be responsible and move to next spot . But if there miles of huntable ground ? It would be best to come to a agreement that I'll stay east you stay south etc . So , IMO , don't be a gate snob,and think because u got there lst you own a 1000 acre square . and also use some common sense and sportsmanship.
This subject can be looked at in so many ways, but IMO, it boils down to one thing, human decency and respect for your fellow hunters. I enjoy Turkey hunting for the one-on-one challenge, beautiful woods, and overall solitude. I get to the spots I hunt early because that's how I hunt, sometimes walking an hour to set up in the dark. Like I said earlier, if a vehicle is where I park, I simply move on. If I have to start worrying about other hunters and it affects my enjoyment, I'm in the wrong spot. Yes, even though Turkey hunting is a solo sport there will be times when you will be sharing an area with another hunter. Hopefully this interaction will be handled morally and ethically so both parties involved can enjoy their experience. I hunt both public and private, I expect pressure on the public, thus I strategize around this. In my 37 years of Turkey hunting, I have had very little interaction with other hunters. The few times I did, I went the other way or left the area. The few times we actually stopped and talked was a pleasurable experience. This to me is what it's all about. If this ever changes for me, it will be time to hang up my calls and call it a day. But until that happens, I be out there every minute that I can, that you can be sure of. Be safe
If I pull up to a gate and there are 1,000s of acres beyond it, I'll talk the person parked there and 9 times out of 10 can find a place for us both to hunt safely and effectively.
If that gate only has one area to hunt, then that guy beat me. I move on.
Quote from: CALLM2U on February 08, 2022, 09:52:55 AM
If I pull up to a gate and there are 1,000s of acres beyond it, I'll talk the person parked there and 9 times out of 10 can find a place for us both to hunt safely and effectively.
If that gate only has one area to hunt, then that guy beat me. I move on.
Yup,...This
^. Things only get complicated when the area in question is so small that there is not room for multiple hunters,...and in situations where the tracts of public land are so limited that there are not alternatives. Not sure how people that are in that sort of situation deal with that circumstance, but I am glad I don't have to make those decisions where I hunt.
When dealing with folks with limited time and opportunity to hunt, making the decision to blow-off hunting for a day because somebody else beat you to the small area you have available to hunt has got to be a tough call. Not sure how often that might happen, but I suspect it does on occasion for some folks.
I hunt public in a very large area that is often bordered by river or creek. If you park in a spot, it is obvious where you are hunting. There is tons of open land - that for sure is a move on spot.
I hunt two other places that are quota and while you can park anywhere, it is also pretty obvious where you will be hunting. A little less space, but lots more than what some folks describe.
In almost every case of rudeness, while they may claim they did not know, they almost always do know they are deliberately trying to cut you off. One time I parked 100 yards from a dead end on a river. The river makes a big bend around that area and I had been tracking a bird from the river side. I was alone and decided to walk in instead of traveling by boat. I was there crazy early. Just at daylight a truck drives right by me and I am standing beside my truck. They park and get out. I walked down and told them I was going to the first bird that gobbled and if another bird gobbled, then that should be the one they headed to. Probably 500 acres in a 500,000 acre forest. One gobbled and I headed off towards it. I got as close as I dared and started calling when it hit the ground. Sure enough, they were about 100 yards away set up and calling.
Sometimes that happens when someone comes in on the river side and most folks just use sense. If you hear someone calling and you know they were there first, just back out and look for another one.