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Title: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: Jstocks on August 31, 2021, 11:34:35 PM
Just some wandering thoughts, but somewhat serious.

For the younger guys (let's say under 35):
Do you guys want mentorship in life?

For example, let's say that you are noticeably aggressive in your posts, always thread hijacking, responding to posts with answers that were not solicited. Would you want one of the older guys to tell you how it is coming off to others, or would you rather go on being your arrogant self imparting your seeming less endless years of wisdom on the rest of us while unbeknownst to yourself making a fool?

For the older guys (35 up):
Is it this age groups obligation to set the lads straight, whether they ask for it or not?
Publicly?
Privately?

This pertains to all subjects on the forum(hunting, shooting, dealing with life, etc)
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: scattergun on August 31, 2021, 11:59:25 PM
No. Not you or anybody else has any obligation to impose your views upon anyone else, unless you are asked. Since you asked, this thread comes off as self righteous, and condescending. Keep your eyes on your own bobber.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: eggshell on September 01, 2021, 04:52:57 AM
nope...leave them alone to play with their own junk.

Never argue with a fool, he'll wear you down and beat you with experience.

Thy're good for a laugh and it's not just young. There are enough derailers in all age groups. Actually I see very few here, this is a reasonably good bunch of people.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: Jstocks on September 01, 2021, 07:09:33 AM
Quote from: scattergun on August 31, 2021, 11:59:25 PM
No. Not you or anybody else has any obligation to impose your views upon anyone else, unless you are asked. Since you asked, this thread comes off as self righteous, and condescending. Keep your eyes on your own bobber.

Just to be clear, since possibly it was taken the wrong way, this post was about mentorship from two age groups:

Does age group A) seek it?
Does age group B) seek to give it?

That's it.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: guesswho on September 01, 2021, 07:12:13 AM
No and no.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: silvestris on September 01, 2021, 07:35:45 AM
I don't know, somehow the young punks somehow have a lttle to bring to the table.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: Tom007 on September 01, 2021, 07:46:15 AM
Quote from: eggshell on September 01, 2021, 04:52:57 AM
nope...leave them alone to play with their own junk.

Never argue with a fool, he'll wear you down and beat you with experience.

Thy're good for a laugh and it's not just young. There are enough derailers in all age groups. Actually I see very few here, this is a reasonably good bunch of people.


Agreed. Age group really doesn't matter. This forum is a platform to share knowledge and experiences. Most of the people participate and contribute in this manner. There are rare occurrences where some use it to throw out jabs and innuendos about things they may not agree with. All in all, the majority of member here share it constructively with good intentions. This is the only platform I enjoy, the other media sites out there, (we all know who they are) lend themselves to be more in line with aggressiveness and controversy....have a great day....
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: THattaway on September 01, 2021, 07:57:29 AM
Op,
Since you asked yes I feel an obligation to help a fella out where I can. I'm talking about hunting and life problems where I have experience and not the silly internet behavior.  Am glad to share it and mostly when it's asked for. I had more than my share of good people who helped me along the way, indebted to them and try to pay it forward. Sometimes a kind word can get someone through a darn rough spot.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: Tom007 on September 01, 2021, 08:08:46 AM
Quote from: THattaway on September 01, 2021, 07:57:29 AM
Op,
Since you asked yes I feel an obligation to help a fella out where I can. I'm talking about hunting and life problems where I have experience and not the silly internet behavior.  Am glad to share it and mostly when it's asked for. I had more than my share of good people who helped me along the way, indebted to them and try to pay it forward. Sometimes a kind word can get someone through a darn rough spot.

Amen my friend.....
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: deerhunt1988 on September 01, 2021, 08:24:06 AM
At 33, I still look for a bit of mentorship in life but I'm dang sure not going to seek it on social media.

10-20 years ago, I did find a lot of turkey hunting mentorship through forums. Joining a turkey forum at the age of 15 actually turned me into the turkey hunter that I am today. One of those mentors has even posted in this thread. 

But times have changed, and not for the best in regards to turkey hunting and social media.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: ChiefBubba on September 01, 2021, 09:33:45 AM
I tend to be a mind my own business kind of man. If asked for help I may or may not give it, really depends on who's asking. As to your question the under 35 person you're describing isn't going to take advice from anyone because they already know all. So I'm not wasting time on them. Bubba
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: EZ on September 01, 2021, 10:22:25 AM
Quote from: THattaway on September 01, 2021, 07:57:29 AM
Op,
Since you asked yes I feel an obligation to help a fella out where I can. I'm talking about hunting and life problems where I have experience and not the silly internet behavior.  Am glad to share it and mostly when it's asked for. I had more than my share of good people who helped me along the way, indebted to them and try to pay it forward. Sometimes a kind word can get someone through a darn rough spot.

Very well said.
I've found that sometimes how I offer help makes the difference on how receptive someone may be.
Also, sometimes failure can be the best teacher, so I'm careful how much I "teach" someone.

And last, the older I get, the more I find out I don't know. Sometimes it's the mentor who learns something!!!!
It's all good.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: Tail Feathers on September 01, 2021, 04:49:05 PM
I try to engage in civil discussion on here.  It's not my place to "set anyone straight".  I treat it kind of like going to someone's home, I'll keep it friendly.  I offer advice when solicited and I have something I think may help.  I just love to talk turkey on here.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: Gooserbat on September 01, 2021, 05:29:09 PM
Depends on what my desired level of drama is for the day.  Those who know me know I'm a thinker,  and stirring the pot is one of my favorite pastimes.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: Happy on September 01, 2021, 07:25:43 PM
I must have missed something. But thats nothing new to me.

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Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: 3bailey3 on September 01, 2021, 08:03:16 PM
Turkeyhunt88 there were a few wise old men on that old site and you learned well from them and taught me a thing or two!!
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: Jstocks on September 01, 2021, 08:39:39 PM
Quote from: 3bailey3 on September 01, 2021, 08:03:16 PM
Turkeyhunt88 there were a few wise old men on that old site and you learned well from them and taught me a thing or two!!

There's some really good ones on this site. Several have put in on this thread.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: Howie g on September 01, 2021, 10:04:17 PM
Well ,  I'm a smart —- in general . So my smart - - -  usually spills over into my comments on this forum also .
  I like reading what most of you have to say about turkeys .  Never to old to still learn from others , but I mostly just laugh at the majority of post on here . 
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: GobbleNut on September 01, 2021, 11:25:06 PM
Regardless of the age of the person, I always start off looking for the good in every individual and treating them with respect.  Most often, that respect is returned.  The occasions where that is not the case are pretty rare from what I have seen,...especially on this site. 

As for the subject of mentoring, I try to offer constructive input where it appears to be wanted,...but that input is always going to be limited to my own personal experience.  Since I am in the "old dude" category at this stage, and have probably had the opportunity to hunt many more days and in more places that a lot of folks here, I assume that some of the commonalities that I have seen in the various places I have hunted may be helpful to pass on to others.  Maybe they will be helpful, and maybe not.  Ultimately, that has to be sorted out by the person applying them wherever they hunt.

Conversely, I also listen openly to other opinions about the subjects discussed here and have often found myself giving those opinions serious consideration and applying them when it seems proper.  Again, though, most of the time that consideration has nothing to do with the age of the persons involved.  For the most part, I make no assumptions regarding people based on their age.  Those assumptions are invariably based on how those folks treat others.   :icon_thumright: :)
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: eggshell on September 02, 2021, 05:28:54 AM
well, there's another angle to consider. The oldelr we get the more help we need from the younger guys. Help like, go on down the trail young man, leave the bird close to the road for the old man with a bum knee, breathing problems and a heart condition. Advise to the old goats, learn how to look real pitiful and to cough up flem on demand. Some of those younguns will feel bad for you and let you have that prime spot. Of course some will just run on by you and laugh, but assh@les have no age group

Just kidding now
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: jhoward11 on September 02, 2021, 08:50:32 AM
If someone wants my opinion, they will ask for it. As part of this forum, we can give our opinion, to questions ask, and let others decide if it's something that would benefit them. Only obligation in life is to tell Gods story...of course my opinion!
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: Greg Massey on September 02, 2021, 11:26:23 AM
Older generations have years of experience to share with the younger generations. The younger guys can spend years in trying to gain the knowledge us older guys have experience. I feel everyone can draw wisdom form each other old or young, it's all about sharing the wisdom, values and traditions we have learned from growing up. I myself have always enjoyed trying to help people regardless of the situation. We are all here to learn from each other and to share our life stories. It's also important for all people to realize all lives matter in carrying on these traditions that we have experienced and the skills acquired in learning all these life changing memories. I just feel we all have knowledge to share with one another. I have learned a lot over the years regardless the age of people from this forum. So it's important to share our thoughts, memories and failures with others. Like i have told people on this forum you can message me anytime and let's talk about turkey hunting, buying calls or how's your day going. I just feel being one of the older dudes i have obligation in helping others. IMO...
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: TurkeyReaper69 on September 02, 2021, 03:20:13 PM
I didn't come on OG to find a life mentor who will warn me of posting smart  comments online and instill maturity in me, however if any of you Old Pros wanna teach a young gun how to use a wingbone, that'd be much appreciated.

But on a serious note, how many guys under 35 are even active on this site? I enjoy this site rather than a turkey hunting group on FB or debating with some guy in your favorite youtubers comment section because theirs a higher level of intelligence and maturity and hunting experience in this group compared to other hunting related media outlets on the web. I have always suspected the reasoning behind that to be because its a predominately older crowd. And with age, comes maturity.

As much as I'd love to proclaim myself as a 100% self taught turkey hunter, I had an older fella throw me a few bones at one point. I'm always open to constructive criticism.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: guesswho on September 02, 2021, 08:38:42 PM
I spread and share a lot of wisdom, and even more wisdumb, so take what I say for what's it's worth.    It I usually only spread it when asked.   If I don't have any wisdom to share when asked, I'll make up some good sounding wisdumb.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: Sixes on September 02, 2021, 09:10:48 PM
I'm too old to ask questions and too dumb to answer them.
Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: RutnNStrutn on September 02, 2021, 10:26:23 PM
Quote from: Jstocks on August 31, 2021, 11:34:35 PM
Just some wandering thoughts, but somewhat serious.

For the younger guys (let's say under 35):
Do you guys want mentorship in life?

For example, let's say that you are noticeably aggressive in your posts, always thread hijacking, responding to posts with answers that were not solicited. Would you want one of the older guys to tell you how it is coming off to others, or would you rather go on being your arrogant self imparting your seeming less endless years of wisdom on the rest of us while unbeknownst to yourself making a fool?

For the older guys (35 up):
Is it this age groups obligation to set the lads straight, whether they ask for it or not?
Publicly?
Privately?

This pertains to all subjects on the forum(hunting, shooting, dealing with life, etc)
Jstocks, it's not a question of age, it's the person. Some people are like that regardless of their age. Most posters that I see that are like that, also don't take well to suggestions. People are people, some are nice and appreciate the mentoring, some not so much.

Sent from deep in the woods where the critters roam.

Title: Re: Younger Generation/Older Generation Obligations
Post by: RutnNStrutn on September 02, 2021, 10:30:35 PM


Quote from: TurkeyReaper69 on September 02, 2021, 03:20:13 PMhowever if any of you Old Pros wanna teach a young gun how to use a wingbone, that'd be much appreciated.




Sent from deep in the woods where the critters roam.