Have you used one to sneak in tight on a gobbler? Do they spook birds or not? I realize that the earlier one gets in tight the better but I'm just asking for your experiences with them. Thanks
Well, I don't know about green lights but I can tell you that I've set up under a gobbler's roost tree more than once and try as I might, total stealth did not describe me. :TrainWreck1:
No light. Take your time and be a ghost.
During turkey season i wear one of those camo caps with the white and green lights built into the hat. work great.
I use a green clip on light but turn it off when I get to where I think a Turkey might see it.
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Quote from: Greg Massey on March 27, 2021, 10:25:16 PM
During turkey season i wear one of those camo caps with the white and green lights built into the hat. work great.
How's that work ? Do they find ya :OGani:
I rarely use a light in the woods
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Quote from: owlhoot on March 27, 2021, 10:29:17 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 27, 2021, 10:25:16 PM
During turkey season i wear one of those camo caps with the white and green lights built into the hat. work great.
How's that work ? Do they find ya :OGani:
Depends if i want them to find me.. :TooFunny:
I use a red scanpro that I use coyote hunting. Just depends on how early you are and how close
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Old school. No lights.
Greatly prefer no lights. If I really need to, I carry a small green lens pen light. I wrapped electrical tape around the end so i can pinch it down and barely let any light out then hold it way down so the light only has a little bit to travel. I only prefer green as it's not as bright as white. Works pretty well I think. I like to get in early enough if I accidentally break a stick trying to sneak in the birds have enough time to forget about it, with no light, could have been a deer, pig, skunk or other woodland critter. Light = bad things.
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Seems to me I once read that turkeys don't see the green light. I think that article said they certainly see red as they can see the head color of the tom and the changes in it's color.
I prefer no light, but if you need one, I think green would be a good choice.
Quote from: Tail Feathers on March 29, 2021, 10:21:24 PM
Seems to me I once read that turkeys don't see the green light. I think that article said they certainly see red as they can see the head color of the tom and the changes in it's color.
I prefer no light, but if you need one, I think green would be a good choice.
That is correct and the reason that I use a green light. The one I use is pretty bright and have never spooked a turkey with it yet. Had bad luck with white and red ones though. A light is something I have to use because of my balance issues so I did a lot of reading before I got one and they are the best. I have been wondering about one of those blue lights but it would seem to me a turkey would see blue as well. I also use them during deer season.
I never used a light for turkey hunting until 3 seasons ago when I walked on top of a raccoon in a wet logging road and he didn't like it and stood his ground. He tore my pants leg and bit my boot, but no skin damage. I shook him off and he stayed just five feet away growling at me in the cell phone light. Last time I've gone in without one. I use green led lights now and have walked under birds and setup without knowing they were in the same tree I setup on.
Going without a light is ok unless you step on a big snake,this is what happened to me last year.
Quote from: turkeykiller41 on March 31, 2021, 04:20:15 PM
Going without a light is ok unless you step on a big snake,this is what happened to me last year.
Beat me to it! The last time I walked in w/out a light I stepped 6 inches from a rattler. Luckily he was cold and I got away unscathed.
But to quote Michael Scott "Fool me once, strike one. Fool me twice, strike three"
I use a Streamlight Stylus penlight with a green lens that I keep in my fist with the bulb shielded by my pinky finger and keep the light pointed straight down ahead of my feet. If I need more light, I open my pinky slightly, but I can also close off light completely by tightening my grip. I have walked under and past turkeys on the roost (didn't know they were there) and didn't bust them with that technique.
Jim
I use a green cap light. Keeps me from walking into trees in the dark. Take it off the cap and partially cover it to lessen the amount of light when I get close to my setup site.
Quote from: West Augusta on March 31, 2021, 06:21:12 PM
I use a green cap light. Keeps me from walking into trees in the dark. Take it off the cap and partially cover it to lessen the amount of light when I get close to my setup site.
Same here.
If I'm using a light I'll use a red light to get within a few hundred yards then go dark. If I stick to a red light or no light my eyes adjust pretty quickly
Quote from: Sir-diealot on March 29, 2021, 10:30:52 PM
Quote from: Tail Feathers on March 29, 2021, 10:21:24 PM
Seems to me I once read that turkeys don't see the green light. I think that article said they certainly see red as they can see the head color of the tom and the changes in it's color.
I prefer no light, but if you need one, I think green would be a good choice.
That is correct and the reason that I use a green light. The one I use is pretty bright and have never spooked a turkey with it yet. Had bad luck with white and red ones though. A light is something I have to use because of my balance issues so I did a lot of reading before I got one and they are the best. I have been wondering about one of those blue lights but it would seem to me a turkey would see blue as well. I also use them during deer season.
The thought that turkeys don't see green intrigued me so I checked into it. From what I've read turkey see colors very well. They actually have more light receptors than humans. It seems they see the full spectrum of colors and UV light. Wash your hunting clothes with tide? You may want to rethink this.
I use the red light as it doesn't bother my night vision as bad. Almost kicked a skunk while walking in a field early one morning. Now I always walk in with a light. But then again I don't worry much about getting super close to birds. I wanna give the bird a "sporting chance". LoL
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Quote from: Sir-diealot on March 29, 2021, 10:30:52 PM
Quote from: Tail Feathers on March 29, 2021, 10:21:24 PM
Seems to me I once read that turkeys don't see the green light. I think that article said they certainly see red as they can see the head color of the tom and the changes in it's color.
I prefer no light, but if you need one, I think green would be a good choice.
That is correct and the reason that I use a green light. The one I use is pretty bright and have never spooked a turkey with it yet. Had bad luck with white and red ones though. A light is something I have to use because of my balance issues so I did a lot of reading before I got one and they are the best. I have been wondering about one of those blue lights but it would seem to me a turkey would see blue as well. I also use them during deer season.
The thought that turkeys don't see green intrigued me so I checked into it. From what I've read turkey see colors very well. They actually have more light receptors than humans. It seems they see the full spectrum of colors and UV light. Wash your hunting clothes with tide? You may want to rethink this.
Quick reply as I have to get ready to go, from what I had read the eyes have certain "cones" (All God's creations have these cones) for certain colors and though they see many they do not have the cone that would see the color green. I will try to find it when I get home.
The article I read said humans 1 rod and 3 single cones allowing us to see a broad spectrum of colors. Turkeys however have 1 rod, 4 single cones, and 2 double cones allowing them to see colors better than humans along with UV wave lengths according to the article. Here's the link
https://www.wideopenspaces.com/eyes-turkey-gobbler-sees/
Quote from: Paulmyr on April 03, 2021, 06:21:37 AM
The article I read said humans 1 rod and 3 single cones allowing us to see a broad spectrum of colors. Turkeys however have 1 rod, 4 single cones, and 2 double cones allowing them to see colors better than humans along with UV wave lengths according to the article. Here's the link
https://www.wideopenspaces.com/eyes-turkey-gobbler-sees/
On the road now but I saw that one ad well ad another that said they had more than that. Has been a bit since I read about the green so maybe it is newer science that changed/updated what I had read when I was getting back into hunting 6 or so years ago. I will try to find out though, wish Mr. Williams was still alive and posting here, he would be the one to ask for sure.
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No light for me. All birds see in color. Not saying you cant get under them with a green light but I would prefer not to test the theory of turkeys cant see them.
I use a small normal colored pen light. I turn it on and then keep my thumb over the end. I flash it on and off by moving my thumb to see where I'm going. I'm trying to mimic a lightning bug. I stop, flash my light to see my next 10 yards or so and then walk it, Repeat. I think I've spooked way more turkeys out of trees by thrashing around in the dark with no light. Plus it's just not worth it to possibly step on a snake or worse. A couple of years ago I walked in to a new place without a light and on the way out I noticed that I had walked about 3 foot from an old hand dug well opening. Thank God I did not fall into it.
No light when sneaking on roosted birds
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I never use a light of any kind. But, I know the land I am hunting very well.
Quote from: Paulmyr on April 03, 2021, 06:21:37 AM
The article I read said humans 1 rod and 3 single cones allowing us to see a broad spectrum of colors. Turkeys however have 1 rod, 4 single cones, and 2 double cones allowing them to see colors better than humans along with UV wave lengths according to the article. Here's the link
https://www.wideopenspaces.com/eyes-turkey-gobbler-sees/
I wanted to let you know I am still trying to find that but don't seem to be able to. Found another that clearly stated deer do not see red or green but that is not the one I am looking for.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 06, 2021, 09:19:07 PM
Quote from: Paulmyr on April 03, 2021, 06:21:37 AM
The article I read said humans 1 rod and 3 single cones allowing us to see a broad spectrum of colors. Turkeys however have 1 rod, 4 single cones, and 2 double cones allowing them to see colors better than humans along with UV wave lengths according to the article. Here's the link
https://www.wideopenspaces.com/eyes-turkey-gobbler-sees/
I wanted to let you know I am still trying to find that but don't seem to be able to. Found another that clearly stated deer do not see red or green but that is not the one I am looking for.
I just clicked on the link and it works for me.
It's VERY seldom that I use any kind of light in the turkey woods. On the rare occasions that I do, I use a single LED red light, or a green Streamlight Stylus pen light which has a cover over the light.
Sent from deep in the woods where the critters roam.
Just bought a green LED light today at our sporting goods store. Going to see how it does over next couple weeks.
I put a red lens over top of a green lens which makes a black light, have never spooked a gobble with this set up.
a side benefit is certain mushrooms glow in the dark, making for easy pickings
Green light, yellow light, red light, stop sign or no light.
I dont think there's a Silver Bullet when it comes to setting up in a creature's bedroom. Im a heavy sleeper personally but certain things get me up instantly bc it's unfamiliar. Sometimes you're busted, sometimes you get it right. Forget color. Lumens are lumens, and they're awkwardly moving in a straight(ish) line from the bird's perspective.
I think i'd err on the side of frugal vs. trusting any gimmick.
Quote from: Paulmyr on April 06, 2021, 09:39:00 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 06, 2021, 09:19:07 PM
Quote from: Paulmyr on April 03, 2021, 06:21:37 AM
The article I read said humans 1 rod and 3 single cones allowing us to see a broad spectrum of colors. Turkeys however have 1 rod, 4 single cones, and 2 double cones allowing them to see colors better than humans along with UV wave lengths according to the article. Here's the link
https://www.wideopenspaces.com/eyes-turkey-gobbler-sees/
I wanted to let you know I am still trying to find that but don't seem to be able to. Found another that clearly stated deer do not see red or green but that is not the one I am looking for.
I just clicked on the link and it works for me.
I mean I could not find the information I had read in the past, the link you provided is working fine.