Title: Unbelievable
Post by: kelley91 on March 14, 2021, 07:19:09 PM
Post by: kelley91 on March 14, 2021, 07:19:09 PM
Buffet is open...
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: wvmntnhick on March 14, 2021, 07:59:42 PM
Post by: wvmntnhick on March 14, 2021, 07:59:42 PM
About time. Was getting concerned COVID was going to keep them shut down indefinitely.
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Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: dzsmith on March 14, 2021, 09:34:02 PM
Post by: dzsmith on March 14, 2021, 09:34:02 PM
whats unbelievable about turkeys around a feeder?
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: owlhoot on March 14, 2021, 10:04:25 PM
Post by: owlhoot on March 14, 2021, 10:04:25 PM
Quote from: dzsmith on March 14, 2021, 09:34:02 PMprobably because he has that many around I guess
whats unbelievable about turkeys around a feeder?
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: Greg Massey on March 14, 2021, 10:09:27 PM
Post by: Greg Massey on March 14, 2021, 10:09:27 PM
I bet it cost a lot to get that picture. unbelievable ..
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: WV Ridge Reaper on March 14, 2021, 10:56:16 PM
Post by: WV Ridge Reaper on March 14, 2021, 10:56:16 PM
Is that a wolf in the background ? Ha
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: wvmntnhick on March 14, 2021, 11:01:43 PM
Post by: wvmntnhick on March 14, 2021, 11:01:43 PM
Quote from: WV Ridge Reaper on March 14, 2021, 10:56:16 PMOh man!!! I didn't even see that!!
Is that a wolf in the background ? Ha
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Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: crow on March 14, 2021, 11:10:39 PM
Post by: crow on March 14, 2021, 11:10:39 PM
Quote from: WV Ridge Reaper on March 14, 2021, 10:56:16 PM
Is that a wolf in the background ? Ha
it's an albino black panther
Title: Unbelievable
Post by: WV Ridge Reaper on March 14, 2021, 11:25:19 PM
Post by: WV Ridge Reaper on March 14, 2021, 11:25:19 PM
I don't know what's crazier the wolf or two trail cameras...A limited edition game keeper feeder..Somone gonna kill em a big 25lber 1.5 spur double 13 inch thunder chicken 
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: WV Ridge Reaper on March 14, 2021, 11:26:29 PM
Post by: WV Ridge Reaper on March 14, 2021, 11:26:29 PM
Quote from: crow on March 14, 2021, 11:10:39 PMO is that the red eyes down in the bottom right corner !!!Quote from: WV Ridge Reaper on March 14, 2021, 10:56:16 PM
Is that a wolf in the background ? Ha
it's an albino black panther
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: dzsmith on March 15, 2021, 12:35:35 AM
Post by: dzsmith on March 15, 2021, 12:35:35 AM
oh I see the dog now...yeah that is interesting for sure.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: Marc on March 15, 2021, 01:10:15 AM
Post by: Marc on March 15, 2021, 01:10:15 AM
Quote from: dzsmith on March 14, 2021, 09:34:02 PMThe wolf/dog in the background with apparently unconcerned turkeys????
whats unbelievable about turkeys around a feeder?
Not sure of the term "buffet" refers to the turkeys getting food at the feeder, or the wolf/dog getting turkeys at the feeder????
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: owlhoot on March 15, 2021, 01:23:43 AM
Post by: owlhoot on March 15, 2021, 01:23:43 AM
Never noticed it . It knows where dinner is at.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: kelley91 on March 15, 2021, 04:05:02 AM
Post by: kelley91 on March 15, 2021, 04:05:02 AM
actually it is a coyote who is going to be removed and as for as the feeder it is to be removed this week well before turkey season opens . i put this on here because i though it was great picture knowing full well some of you guys on here would be all over it .
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: dzsmith on March 15, 2021, 04:54:00 AM
Post by: dzsmith on March 15, 2021, 04:54:00 AM
Quote from: kelley91 on March 15, 2021, 04:05:02 AM
actually it is a coyote who is going to be removed and as for as the feeder it is to be removed this week well before turkey season opens . i put this on here because i though it was great picture knowing full well some of you guys on here would be all over it .
I couldn't open the picture large enough to really see the coyote. but now that I see it, yeah that's pretty cool
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: timberjack86 on March 15, 2021, 05:28:05 AM
Post by: timberjack86 on March 15, 2021, 05:28:05 AM
After hearing alot of the dangers of alfatoxins I'd be scared to feed turkeys. I heard my state is blaming the decline on feeders.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: kelley91 on March 15, 2021, 06:57:27 AM
Post by: kelley91 on March 15, 2021, 06:57:27 AM
my point in posting that picture is that it shows one of the big reasons numbers are declining. During our past trapping season I caught 18 coons 10 or so possums and called in one coyote. Got work to do on the coyotes. All within a couple 100 yrds of that spot. I understand that is not the only problem. I can't control the weather or bulldozers but i can try to reduce predators. Just think about how many nest 18 coons would have destroyed
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on March 15, 2021, 12:27:52 PM
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on March 15, 2021, 12:27:52 PM
Quote from: kelley91 on March 15, 2021, 06:57:27 AMThe feeder greatly increases the carrying capacity of the land. Cut out the corn and the coon and possum numbers go down.
my point in posting that picture is that it shows one of the big reasons numbers are declining. During our past trapping season I caught 18 coons 10 or so possums and called in one coyote. Got work to do on the coyotes. All within a couple 100 yrds of that spot. I understand that is not the only problem. I can't control the weather or bulldozers but i can try to reduce predators. Just think about how many nest 18 coons would have destroyed
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Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: kelley91 on March 15, 2021, 01:35:50 PM
Post by: kelley91 on March 15, 2021, 01:35:50 PM
feeder only been up 3 wks . i was trapping during Dec and Jan. With all due respect I don't think you realize how many coons they are
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on March 15, 2021, 01:44:34 PM
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on March 15, 2021, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: kelley91 on March 15, 2021, 01:35:50 PMThere's plenty of research that pinpoints increased scavenger numbers with the introduction of alternate food sources into a landscape. You may very well have trapped piles before you put the feeder out but you're not doing yourself any favors. If that piece of land already had enough food to support a hundred coons, it's now got enough to support 150. It's the whole nose to spite the face scenario.
feeder only been up 3 wks . i was trapping during Dec and Jan. With all due respect I don't think you realize how many coons they are
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Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: davisd9 on March 15, 2021, 02:26:48 PM
Post by: davisd9 on March 15, 2021, 02:26:48 PM
Feeder creates the perfect ambush point for the predators to set up and wait. Plus a false food source is never a good thing.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: owlhoot on March 15, 2021, 03:15:45 PM
Post by: owlhoot on March 15, 2021, 03:15:45 PM
Quote from: kelley91 on March 15, 2021, 01:35:50 PM
feeder only been up 3 wks . i was trapping during Dec and Jan. With all due respect I don't think you realize how many coons they are
Good job on the trapping. Keep it up. If the feeder brings them in trap them up or shoot them.
The dang coons will destroy the nests. They do it in plenty of areas without feeders too and have no problem increasing their numbers.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: Marc on March 15, 2021, 05:17:19 PM
Post by: Marc on March 15, 2021, 05:17:19 PM
A couple years back, I read some interesting studies on coyote control...
Coyotes eat and/or control populations of: opossums, raccoos, skunks, foxes, and to some degree bobcats, all of which are harder on upland populations than are coytoes... Furthermore, when available, coyotes eat lots of rodents, which compete for upland game for food sources...
Bottem line was that the study showed that in similar areas, the upland populations were improved in areas without coyote control.
Other side of that story is that turkeys are not a typical upland game bird... I know that coyotes actively hunt turkeys, cause I have called in too many coyotes with a turkey call. And maybe a hen turkey could fend off nest stealers such as raccoons, opossums, and skunks???
Coyotes eat and/or control populations of: opossums, raccoos, skunks, foxes, and to some degree bobcats, all of which are harder on upland populations than are coytoes... Furthermore, when available, coyotes eat lots of rodents, which compete for upland game for food sources...
Bottem line was that the study showed that in similar areas, the upland populations were improved in areas without coyote control.
Other side of that story is that turkeys are not a typical upland game bird... I know that coyotes actively hunt turkeys, cause I have called in too many coyotes with a turkey call. And maybe a hen turkey could fend off nest stealers such as raccoons, opossums, and skunks???
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: owlhoot on March 15, 2021, 06:50:44 PM
Post by: owlhoot on March 15, 2021, 06:50:44 PM
Quote from: Marc on March 15, 2021, 05:17:19 PMWell the dang coyotes need to pick up their game! Of course it is not easy for them, because coons and possum have that nasty habit of climbing trees. In the meantime they chase everything. Not many fox around anymore or rabbits, pheasants or quail. Predators getting at everything.
A couple years back, I read some interesting studies on coyote control...
Coyotes eat and/or control populations of: opossums, raccoos, skunks, foxes, and to some degree bobcats, all of which are harder on upland populations than are coytoes... Furthermore, when available, coyotes eat lots of rodents, which compete for upland game for food sources...
Bottem line was that the study showed that in similar areas, the upland populations were improved in areas without coyote control.
Other side of that story is that turkeys are not a typical upland game bird... I know that coyotes actively hunt turkeys, cause I have called in too many coyotes with a turkey call. And maybe a hen turkey could fend off nest stealers such as raccoons, opossums, and skunks???
Never seen a 10lb hen fighting off a 25lb coon at the nest. Have any of you?
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: kelley91 on March 16, 2021, 02:23:36 PM
Post by: kelley91 on March 16, 2021, 02:23:36 PM
not on this planet . a coon can be bad very bad.it just makes sense to me that if you take a nest raider out it is going to help the turkey population, quail , song bird , or whatever. coyotes are hell on rabbits , young turkeys all small game.