Im thinking about using a different tukey gun this year.Im getting tired of carrying a heavy model 1100 and 835.Will a mossy 500 20 gauge work with lead 6s @ 40 yards.what choke for lead.
You could probably find something that would work. Takes time and money to find the right combo. Good luck
I really cant speak for the Mossy,but a 20 is a great 40 yard gun with the right choke and shell. It is trial and error thing. Im shooting a Benelli Nova with.555 Indian Creek choke and Nitro 7s.and it is a real head knocker out to 40.
Quote from: redowl on February 01, 2013, 05:45:39 PMIm thinking about using a different tukey gun this year.Im getting tired of carrying a heavy model 1100 and 835. Will a mossy 500 20 gauge work with lead 6s @ 40 yards.what choke for lead.
Yes it will cleanly harvest a gobbler out to 40yds. My main Turkey gun is a 2000 Mossberg® Mdl 500C 20ga with a 26" barrel. I use a Wrights®
SWARM™ .555" choke and Winchester® Supreme™ 20ga 3" Mag #4Pb ammunition. I also use a Hastings® .570" Extended Choke with Remington® Nitro Turkey 20ga 3" Mag #5Pb ammo. Because you have chosen to use #6 shot you will have a denser pattern than what I can do.
Quote from: redowl on February 01, 2013, 05:45:39 PM
Im thinking about using a different tukey gun this year.Im getting tired of carrying a heavy model 1100 and 835.Will a mossy 500 20 gauge work with lead 6s @ 40 yards.what choke for lead.
With lead it is a few and far between to be a slam dunk 40 yd gun . 30 yd all day long .35 yard - yeah in several combinations.
Mossy 20 try 560-562 . Lead 7.5s at 30 yds are pretty awesome in tighter chokes.
If you can find some lead 6's and a choke that likes them, you can sure have a 40 yard 20 gauge. Thing is, with most manufacturers only making the pb loads in #5 or #4, that task is harder to accomplish than some guys are willing to try. I have an 870 that'll put right about 100-110/10" at 40, but it is with the older Federal Premium #6's that use the Triple-plus wad and NOT the Flight Control wad.
Thanks for all the info.I carried a H&R fixed Full choke 12 for a number of years .It was barely a 40 yard killer but i busted heads with it.It only weighed 4.5 pounds so 3in mag was real interesting.I even shot a few 3.5s not anymore.If i think i could do that well with a 20 gauge ,i think i almost got myself talked into it.
Winchester has a 3-1 1/4-#6 in a box of 25; Federal has the FCW #6 lead and at Rogers Sporting goods the older pre FC shell; Remington has 3"6s, as well as Kent, Fiocchi so it is not a shard to find shells as it is to get a tight shooting 40 yard 20 gauge using lead.
Usually 550 - 560 range chokes are going to be the best bet for that.
HTL loads certainly make a huge difference for the 20s on shots over 35 yards.
want you a combo that stops the gobblers dead in their tracks ? Here's mine // mossy 500 using 3" hevishot . no flopping around,, just a dead gobbler 40 yards and better. the hevi-shot for the 20 is a little steep but if your sights are on , one shell is all you need per bird. I'll have to check on the choke and red dot
I've had several 20ga model and makes, and i wouldnt shoot at a bird over 30 yards with any of them using lead. Now the 870 20 ga i currently hunt with and 3 in Fed HW's, i'll take it out to 40 easily with confidence.
With my 21" barreled 870 I would feel confident out to 40 yards with the SumToy choke and Winchester Lead 5's or 6's.
Quote from: redowl on February 01, 2013, 05:45:39 PM
Im thinking about using a different tukey gun this year.Im getting tired of carrying a heavy model 1100 and 835.Will a mossy 500 20 gauge work with lead 6s @ 40 yards.what choke for lead.
To answer your question directly, yes, properly choked it will. I have a Mossberg 500 with a 26" barrel. It's relatively light and exceptionally well balanced. It came drilled and tapped and I especially like the flat underside of the fore end. It just fits my hand properly.
I've shot a variety of shells through it and have loaned that gun to friends to use at shoots and hunts. They never want to give it up when I do that.
In looking for lead shot loads, I'd recommend that you consider the #6 shot lead shells and look at some of the loads made for pheasants. They are more widely available in larger payloads and #6 shot than are some of the "turkey" loads. You may also be able to find some of the older Federal turkey loads that had 1 5/8 oz. of #6 shot. These are the pre-Flitecontrol Wad shells. They do a good job.
Of course tungsten-based shot shells like Hevi-13 or Federal Heavyweight #7s will do a much better job than any of the lead shells.
Like many others, I use the SSX turkey choke in my 20 gauge 500 and it seems to work well with any of those shells.
Thanks,
Clark
Quote from: allaboutshooting on February 09, 2013, 05:36:07 PM
Quote from: redowl on February 01, 2013, 05:45:39 PM
Im thinking about using a different tukey gun this year.Im getting tired of carrying a heavy model 1100 and 835.Will a mossy 500 20 gauge work with lead 6s @ 40 yards.what choke for lead.
To answer your question directly, yes, properly choked it will. I have a Mossberg 500 with a 26" barrel. It's relatively light and exceptionally well balanced. It came drilled and tapped and I especially like the flat underside of the fore end. It just fits my hand properly.
I've shot a variety of shells through it and have loaned that gun to friends to use at shoots and hunts. They never want to give it up when I do that.
In looking for lead shot loads, I'd recommend that you consider the #6 shot lead shells and look at some of the loads made for pheasants. They are more widely available in larger payloads and #6 shot than are some of the "turkey" loads. You may also be able to find some of the older Federal turkey loads that had 1 5/8 oz. of #6 shot. These are the pre-Flitecontrol Wad shells. They do a good job.
Of course tungsten-based shot shells like Hevi-13 or Federal Heavyweight #7s will do a much better job than any of the lead shells.
Like many others, I use the SSX turkey choke in my 20 gauge 500 and it seems to work well with any of those shells.
Thanks,
Clark
1 5/8oz would be a 12ga load I believe. Don't you mean a 1 5/16oz load of Pb in Federal® FCW or the Winchester® Supreme™?
I bought a mossberg 500 in 20 gauge 26 inch barrel.So far i used two differnt chokes with lead.I used a undertaker first with Remington 3 inch #6s 1 1/4 oz. 50 pellets in a sheet of notebook paper.I then used a gobble stopper .565 with same shells with 70 to 90 pellets in notebook paper.That matches some patterns my 835 shot with 3 in 1 7/8.Both test were @ 38 yards.I think i got what i want.I really like this gun.
The 20 is a good little gun. Now it is VERY shell depended. I would go with the HTL loads if not look into the Federal FCW lead.
I am in the process of building a Mossy Super Bantam. I am waiting on a Sumtoy 562-5. After shooting a few lead loads and talking to William I am excited about the possibilities with the gun. I originally started this gun for my wife and daughters but it will probably head out with me a few times this year. I love the recoil and the light weight. Good luck.
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I too am in the process of putting together a 20 gauge turkey/duck gun, using an A5 Mag Browning and asking questions and reading. I am an annal pattern tester, stemming from trap shooting and hand loading duck loads, both starting many years ago. I do have a previous experience with a 20 gauge turkey gun, a decision made from a sore back and long walks. I started with a old M12 20, that I had sent to Briley to install choke tubes, with the understanding I wanted a turkey gun. Briley did an excellent job, and that gun will deliver excellent 30 yd patterns with premium 2 3/4" shells loaded with plated #6's, but I was never comfortable stretching farther, the pattern deteriorated rapidly with distance. Hunting public lands will sometimes make your needs change, and I was on a quest to have a 40 yd 20 gauge. I purchased a M1 S90 Benelli 20 gauge and started testing. Remember that this was a few years ago, everything has improved, most important the info from the internet. I was finally successful, but it wasn't easy, cheap or especially fun. I tested every 20 gauge 3" "turkey" load on the market at the time, made several people mad returning choke tubes, and was eating ibuprophen like M&M's from my shoulder killing me. I was on my 3rd custom choke tube when I stumbled on to some Winchester XX magnums, lighter payload than the turkey loads and bingo, finally something that I could live with. Like the earlier gentleman said, the premium pheasant loads all shot better out of my Benelli than any of the turkey loads. In the end the only thing I really liked about the Benelli was caring it, very light, but kicked like a young mule and the only thing that I found it useful for was turkey hunting. All of the testing I think took it's toll. You will probably get lucky and buy a great choke tube and some of the HW shells and knock the center out of a 10" circle at 40 yds. My luck is I will be shooting a lot of shells and have an up front understanding with the choke tube supplier. Good luck, and probably wouldn't hurt to have some anti inflammatory drugs on hand.
Quote from: redowl on February 01, 2013, 05:45:39 PM
Im thinking about using a different tukey gun this year.Im getting tired of carrying a heavy model 1100 and 835.Will a mossy 500 20 gauge work with lead 6s @ 40 yards.what choke for lead.
I shoot a mossy 500 in 20 with a PG tempest and I use the Federal copper plated lead #6 for sighting in and I will get a good enough pattern to kill @ 40 sometimes a lil thin in areas but still good. I use the Fed hw #7s as my primary