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Started by Dazzler, April 08, 2019, 10:39:48 AM
Quote from: LaLongbeard on May 08, 2019, 04:38:51 PMI've never worried about UV brightness of my clothing. I don't wash my hunting clothes a lot when I do I use Tide, never had a deer or turkey react.
Quote from: Marc on May 08, 2019, 10:12:58 PMQuote from: LaLongbeard on May 08, 2019, 04:38:51 PMI've never worried about UV brightness of my clothing. I don't wash my hunting clothes a lot when I do I use Tide, never had a deer or turkey react. I do not know if deer have the photoreceptors to see the UV spectrum, but turkeys do, as do waterfowl.
Quote from: LaLongbeard on May 08, 2019, 10:17:37 PMDeer hunters were the original target for the UV scam lol. I never heard of ducks or turkeys being bothered by the UV brightners until recently. I can assure you I have never hunted in a blind, and use regular washing detergent and the times I have been busted had nothing to do with what laundry detergent I use.
Quote from: LaLongbeard on May 10, 2019, 09:12:10 AMIf it makes you feel better to use the separate detergent fine. But every detergent sold has UV brightners unless you buy one specifically without it. How many people do you think use the regular detergent vs UV wash? There were scientific studies in the 70's that claimed we were in a global cooling trend and if something wasn't done we were headed for an Ice age lol. Science papers are good for inside classrooms. Ozone machines,scentloc suits, Hec suits, and the UV effects are a scam plain and simple. You rarely hear about it anymore but it was huge in the 80s-90s why is that ?
Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 10, 2019, 05:15:29 PMQuote from: LaLongbeard on May 10, 2019, 09:12:10 AMIf it makes you feel better to use the separate detergent fine. But every detergent sold has UV brightners unless you buy one specifically without it. How many people do you think use the regular detergent vs UV wash? There were scientific studies in the 70's that claimed we were in a global cooling trend and if something wasn't done we were headed for an Ice age lol. Science papers are good for inside classrooms. Ozone machines,scentloc suits, Hec suits, and the UV effects are a scam plain and simple. You rarely hear about it anymore but it was huge in the 80s-90s why is that ?Not convinced the HEC suit is a scam or not a scam, the printable behind it is very well known, it is just a Faraday cage or Faraday shield for the body. I would like to see some independent study on one of the suits with scientific equipment. It is like those that say Scent Lok suits don't work because they were sued and lost, they did not lose because it does not work, they lost because they said that all you had to do is throw it in the dryer and it would work and that was wrong. Now if you wash it in a carbon wash and then dry it it does work which has been proven.
Quote from: LaLongbeard on May 10, 2019, 06:08:44 PMQuote from: Sir-diealot on May 10, 2019, 05:15:29 PMQuote from: LaLongbeard on May 10, 2019, 09:12:10 AMIf it makes you feel better to use the separate detergent fine. But every detergent sold has UV brightners unless you buy one specifically without it. How many people do you think use the regular detergent vs UV wash? There were scientific studies in the 70's that claimed we were in a global cooling trend and if something wasn't done we were headed for an Ice age lol. Science papers are good for inside classrooms. Ozone machines,scentloc suits, Hec suits, and the UV effects are a scam plain and simple. You rarely hear about it anymore but it was huge in the 80s-90s why is that ?Not convinced the HEC suit is a scam or not a scam, the printable behind it is very well known, it is just a Faraday cage or Faraday shield for the body. I would like to see some independent study on one of the suits with scientific equipment. It is like those that say Scent Lok suits don't work because they were sued and lost, they did not lose because it does not work, they lost because they said that all you had to do is throw it in the dryer and it would work and that was wrong. Now if you wash it in a carbon wash and then dry it it does work which has been proven.Scentloc got sued cause it doesn't work. It's never been proven to work. A Bloodhound doesn't come close to a Whitetails nose and Scentloc and the scent killer spray both failed the bloodhound test. I think Hecs Suits absolutely work.....no question the reason some people don't kill anything is because the animal could sense there electrical field? It's so redicoulous it's not even funny.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 10, 2019, 07:52:05 PMQuote from: LaLongbeard on May 10, 2019, 06:08:44 PMQuote from: Sir-diealot on May 10, 2019, 05:15:29 PMQuote from: LaLongbeard on May 10, 2019, 09:12:10 AMIf it makes you feel better to use the separate detergent fine. But every detergent sold has UV brightners unless you buy one specifically without it. How many people do you think use the regular detergent vs UV wash? There were scientific studies in the 70's that claimed we were in a global cooling trend and if something wasn't done we were headed for an Ice age lol. Science papers are good for inside classrooms. Ozone machines,scentloc suits, Hec suits, and the UV effects are a scam plain and simple. You rarely hear about it anymore but it was huge in the 80s-90s why is that ?Not convinced the HEC suit is a scam or not a scam, the printable behind it is very well known, it is just a Faraday cage or Faraday shield for the body. I would like to see some independent study on one of the suits with scientific equipment. It is like those that say Scent Lok suits don't work because they were sued and lost, they did not lose because it does not work, they lost because they said that all you had to do is throw it in the dryer and it would work and that was wrong. Now if you wash it in a carbon wash and then dry it it does work which has been proven.Scentloc got sued cause it doesn't work. It's never been proven to work. A Bloodhound doesn't come close to a Whitetails nose and Scentloc and the scent killer spray both failed the bloodhound test. I think Hecs Suits absolutely work.....no question the reason some people don't kill anything is because the animal could sense there electrical field? It's so redicoulous it's not even funny.Of course you can kill an animal without a HEC's suit, never said you could not. I again would like to see some scientific evidence either way, I like science and seeing things being challenged to come up with an outcome either way. All I am saying is if a faraday cage can block one type of electrical field and the human body is full of electrical field why could it not work? I am neither for or against it, I am for "Let's test it" Some people think just because something is new it is no good, I am not one of them. I will not go spend money on one though, not until I see some kind of scientific study results and even then I may not, kinda getting to the point it is not hunting anymore.
Quote from: Marc on May 10, 2019, 12:42:35 AMI actually did research on photoreceptors in college. Got to use technology that actually was able to view individual photoreceptors on fish... The Paper was published in a scientific journal..I know that birds have (including turkeys and ducks) have photoreceptors capable of detecting wavelengths of light in the UV spectrum. Looking through devices capable of seeing UV, there is no doubt that color brightening detergents are far more visible viewing through them...I would not call this a scam... Might not be as important as portrayed, but the science is there to support the claim.
Quote from: GobbleNut on May 11, 2019, 11:52:12 AMPersonally, I can leap tall buildings in a single bound,...but don't ask me to prove it with an actual demonstration. ..In the meantime, I am going to rely on those with a lot more expertise than me to inform me about other subjects,...and when about 99% of those folks tell me that something is fact, I am inclined to listen to them...
Quote from: LaLongbeard on May 11, 2019, 12:48:05 PMSo your still waiting on the other 98% of science to back up either the UV brightners claim or the Hecs suit claim? Scentloc has pretty much died on the vine lol. PS some of the same scientists that claimed we were going to freeze in 1971 are now on the global warming wagon....go figure.