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20 Gauge WLB Shells - It's Official

Started by allaboutshooting, December 15, 2016, 04:34:09 PM

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allaboutshooting

Quoteits begining to look a lot like christmas!!!!!! I wonder what santa would like to bring me, maybe some new shotgun shells and a new choke!!!! What a great idea!!!       cluck

I hope Santa hears you! It will be interesting to see how these new 20s respond to different chokes. All just a part of the fun.
Good luck with Santa.

Thanks,
Clark
"If he's out of range, it just means he has another day and so do you."


Swampchickin234

So how many of you are going to quit shooting hw 7?   I know I know, I'm drooling to shoot some of these shells.  But I don't think I can leave my hw7.  It sure would be hard. 


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Yoder409

Quote from: allaboutshooting on December 16, 2016, 03:04:52 PMThe WLB is only available in #5 shot however, where the "Rooster" is available in #4, #5 and #6 shot.

Thanks,
Clark

Why has Winchester balked at loading 6's in their 20 ga turkey loads ???

In a 20 especially.......................... hows about a higher pellet count for better pattern density at distance ???
PA elitist since 1979

The good Lord ain't made a gobbler I can't kill.  I just gotta be there at the right time.....  on the day he wants to die.

allaboutshooting

Quote from: Yoder409 on December 16, 2016, 09:38:02 PM
Quote from: allaboutshooting on December 16, 2016, 03:04:52 PMThe WLB is only available in #5 shot however, where the "Rooster" is available in #4, #5 and #6 shot.

Thanks,
Clark

Why has Winchester balked at loading 6's in their 20 ga turkey loads ???

In a 20 especially.......................... hows about a higher pellet count for better pattern density at distance ???

The new WLB 20 gauge shells are available with #6 shot. It's the new 2.75" WLB 12 gauge shells that are available with #5 shot only.
Thanks,
Clark
"If he's out of range, it just means he has another day and so do you."


silvestris

I'm gonna try them, but they continue to disappoint me with their extended range cdvertising crap.
"[T]he changing environment will someday be totally and irrevocably unsuitable for the wild turkey.  Unless mankind precedes the birds in extinction, we probably will not be hunting turkeys for too much longer."  Ken Morgan, "Turkey Hunting, A One Man Game

Yoder409

Quote from: allaboutshooting on December 16, 2016, 10:57:35 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on December 16, 2016, 09:38:02 PM
Quote from: allaboutshooting on December 16, 2016, 03:04:52 PMThe WLB is only available in #5 shot however, where the "Rooster" is available in #4, #5 and #6 shot.

Thanks,
Clark

Why has Winchester balked at loading 6's in their 20 ga turkey loads ???

In a 20 especially.......................... hows about a higher pellet count for better pattern density at distance ???

The new WLB 20 gauge shells are available with #6 shot. It's the new 2.75" WLB 12 gauge shells that are available with #5 shot only.
Thanks,
Clark

OK.   My dumb.  Musta mis-read.........

I am quite anxious to light a few LB's in my newly concocted 20 ga.   
PA elitist since 1979

The good Lord ain't made a gobbler I can't kill.  I just gotta be there at the right time.....  on the day he wants to die.

BowBendr

Quote from: allaboutshooting on December 15, 2016, 04:34:09 PM
I just received the press release from Winchester about 20 gauge WLB shells. You can read the full release here

http://allaboutshooting.com/blogs/blog/winchester-adds-a-20-gauge-load-to-the-long-beard-xr-lineup

I should have some of those shells soon and I'll let you know what I see at the range.

Thanks,
Clark

Clark, any idea on a published velocity rating ?
Thank you Sir !

allaboutshooting

QuoteOK.   My dumb.  Musta mis-read.........
I am quite anxious to light a few LB's in my newly concocted 20 ga. 

Not at all. I can see how that was done.

Those new shells should be fun.

Thanks,
Clark
"If he's out of range, it just means he has another day and so do you."


allaboutshooting

QuoteClark, any idea on a published velocity rating ?
Thank you Sir !

You're welcome.

They did not list velocity in the press release for them. I can probably find out and if so, I'll put that information here on OG.

Thanks,
Clark
"If he's out of range, it just means he has another day and so do you."


chatterbox

It will be interesting, indeed.
They will have to be ALOT better for me to change from my HW #7's, however.

allaboutshooting

Quote from: chatterbox on December 18, 2016, 09:15:00 AM
It will be interesting, indeed.
They will have to be ALOT better for me to change from my HW #7's, however.
Yep! Two different shells indeed. I hope to have some soon and put them through some different chokes.

Thanks,
Clark
"If he's out of range, it just means he has another day and so do you."


allaboutshooting

Quote from: BowBendr on December 17, 2016, 09:58:11 AM
Quote from: allaboutshooting on December 15, 2016, 04:34:09 PM
I just received the press release from Winchester about 20 gauge WLB shells. You can read the full release here

http://allaboutshooting.com/blogs/blog/winchester-adds-a-20-gauge-load-to-the-long-beard-xr-lineup

I should have some of those shells soon and I'll let you know what I see at the range.

Thanks,
Clark

Clark, any idea on a published velocity rating ?
Thank you Sir !


I sent Winchester an email just after I read your post about the velocity. They responded this morning. It will have a velocity of 1000 fps.

Thanks,
Clark
"If he's out of range, it just means he has another day and so do you."


SKFOOTER

1000 fps is awfully slow for a turkey load?? :OGturkeyhead:

sevetts

Quote from: SKFOOTER on December 19, 2016, 02:08:13 PM
1000 fps is awfully slow for a turkey load?? :OGturkeyhead:
That's what I thought, can't say I'm real excited about a 1000fps 1 1/4 lead load....

allaboutshooting

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Quote1000 fps is awfully slow for a turkey load??

One of the more interesting principles in the study of the effect of velocity on spheres is that, put simply, the higher the initial velocity, the more quickly that velocity decreases. Since lead shot is generally in the shape of a sphere, that principle applies to the velocity of shot in those shotshells with lead shot.

When we look at the terminal velocity of shot at 40 yards, with a muzzle velocity of 1000-1090 fps and shot with a muzzle velocity of 1200-1225, they are just about the same. Since the terminal energy is a product of the terminal velocity and the weight of the sphere, shot launched at those muzzle velocities also have very similar terminal energy. The advantage to the lower velocity of the sphere (shot) is that there is less disruption to the medium (air) and the shot flies in a more stable manner.

In my discussions with folks in the field who know a lot more about the physics of shot flight than I do, there also seems to be agreement that there is an advantage to patterning when shot does not have a muzzle velocity that exceeds the speed of sound, 1090 fps, since within 40 yards it will drop below that speed and become even less stable.

Thanks,
Clark
"If he's out of range, it just means he has another day and so do you."