I'm not sure if they discontinued them or not, but i have been using a bushnell dusk til dawn (1.75 to 4.5 i think) The model i am using has a full 6" of eye relief, and the end of the scope is even with the rear end of the receiver on my vinci. Great field of view on low power and circle x crosshair. No worries about scope eye with it. Like the other posters said, get the most eye relief you can!