I get a much bigger thrill when a bird is at 30 vs. 60 yards. No comparison. I will play around with them if I can tell they are not too nervous. This is the fun part of turkey hunting to me. After the shot, it's just a dead bird. Each of us takes what we want from hunting, so I'm not judging. If a bird is past 45 yards, he's walking away. I'll get him next time. That being said, he is not gonna get inside of 20 if I can help it. That's just asking for trouble.