Finally got ahold of an 870 express magnum 20 its got a 26" pipe and plain ole wood stock. I went ahead and bought a .570 tightwad choke for it. Gonna break in the choke tomorrow after work, deep clean the heck out of barrel and then shoot some fed no 7's through her. I'm not gonna worry about getting it dipped and new stock for it till after the season. I just dont think my shoulder can put up with the 835 much longer.