Do I sound any better?

[Sir-diealot]

First one is 2 months ago next will be last night in my apartment and third will be a few minutes ago outside. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks. This is on a wing bone call by the way.

https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/wingbone-turkey-call

https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/wingbone-practice

https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/more-practice-outside-with-a-wingbone-turkey-call

[outdoors]

The third one sounds good  ,  always practice you will get better
I always practice and I keep getting better
Lip stope placement and the lip placement make a big DIFFERANCE
And last but not is hand placement over the sound hole
My biggest challenge is purring I did once and can't figure out what I did right can't duplicate it
                                       

[Sir-diealot]

The third one sounds good  ,  always practice you will get better
I always practice and I keep getting better
Lip stope placement and the lip placement make a big DIFFERANCE
My biggest challenge is purring I did once and can't figure out what I did right can't duplicate it
                                       

That must be driving you nuts! I am trying different lip placements, I know center of the mouth is traditional but I just feel I do much better to the right of center a bit. After reading Leo's post I think it was about the trumpet I am trying to use less air pressure as somebody had mentioned. I do think that helped me today.

[outdoors]

When I first started I started out with a wing bone like the one you have and progress to the high dollar calls now  ,,  ,,  when I take it the woods , even deer season and play it I almost always get a responce  I used to practice when I was driving to work and around  when I STOPED at a light two DIFFERANT tiemes I got pulled over that was a joke ..
Ooo lip placement is a factor also  what works for you 

[Sir-diealot]

When I first started I started out with a wing bone like the one you have and progress to the high dollar calls now  ,,  ,,  when I take it the woods , even deer season and play it I almost always get a responce  I used to practice when I was driving to work and around  when I STOPED at a light two DIFFERANT tiemes I got pulled over that was a joke ..
Ooo lip placement is a factor also  what works for you

My father got pulled over just because of the way he was holding his cigarette, they though he was smoking a joint.

[larry9988]

Have you tried putting a lipstop on your wingbone? Put one on there and adjust it until your get a more consistent sound. If you don't have one, make one. You can make one out of a faucet washer, old style fishing cork or rubber stopper. Also pull your air a little longer if you can. Practice pulling a long consistent note before trying to yelp. A little more lip pressure should also bring your pitch up some.

[EZ]

Have you tried putting a lipstop on your wingbone? Put one on there and adjust it until your get a more consistent sound. If you don't have one, make one. You can make one out of a faucet washer, old style fishing cork or rubber stopper. Also pull your air a little longer if you can. Practice pulling a long consistent note before trying to yelp. A little more lip pressure should also bring your pitch up some.

Good advise here. Your air control is very choppy. Take your time and "draw" air and use as little as possible. Choking off the air on the bell end will allow you to use less air and you can open up as you want to get louder.
A good practice technique as Larry said, is to just do a single note and hold it. That will force you to draw smoothly.
Keep practicing. 

[Sir-diealot]

Have you tried putting a lipstop on your wingbone? Put one on there and adjust it until your get a more consistent sound. If you don't have one, make one. You can make one out of a faucet washer, old style fishing cork or rubber stopper. Also pull your air a little longer if you can. Practice pulling a long consistent note before trying to yelp. A little more lip pressure should also bring your pitch up some.

No not yet though I have thought on it. It will be next month before I can get to the stuff to do that but I will for sure. Trying the longer note now as I pause writing this, sounds very deep to me, I think it should be higher in pitch? Thanks for the ideas.

[Sir-diealot]

Have you tried putting a lipstop on your wingbone? Put one on there and adjust it until your get a more consistent sound. If you don't have one, make one. You can make one out of a faucet washer, old style fishing cork or rubber stopper. Also pull your air a little longer if you can. Practice pulling a long consistent note before trying to yelp. A little more lip pressure should also bring your pitch up some.

Good advise here. Your air control is very choppy. Take your time and "draw" air and use as little as possible. Choking off the air on the bell end will allow you to use less air and you can open up as you want to get louder.
A good practice technique as Larry said, is to just do a single note and hold it. That will force you to draw smoothly.
Keep practicing. 

Okay thank you, my ring finger on right hand seems to want to sit in the bell nicely but then it removes my sound chamber, I will work on it more though. Thanks.

[guesswho]

I don't know a lot about theses suction type callers, but it sounds like the internals in the mouth piece may be to large.   Your technique sounds like it's on the right track.  But if those internals are to big it's really going to hinder your progress.  Be similar to trying to make a precision surgical cut with a butter knife.   Even if the technique is right, the end result won't be what it could be.   Good luck and have fun with it.

[gergg]

Have you tried putting a lipstop on your wingbone? Put one on there and adjust it until your get a more consistent sound. If you don't have one, make one. You can make one out of a faucet washer, old style fishing cork or rubber stopper. Also pull your air a little longer if you can. Practice pulling a long consistent note before trying to yelp. A little more lip pressure should also bring your pitch up some.

Good advise here. Your air control is very choppy. Take your time and "draw" air and use as little as possible. Choking off the air on the bell end will allow you to use less air and you can open up as you want to get louder.
A good practice technique as Larry said, is to just do a single note and hold it. That will force you to draw smoothly.
Keep practicing. 

Okay thank you, my ring finger on right hand seems to want to sit in the bell nicely but then it removes my sound chamber, I will work on it more though. Thanks.

Just a thought, ring finger on the bell opening can work, but I think you might have more luck sliding the right hand down where the index/middle finger is on the bell end, gives a larger chamber and just maybe more volume/character/control. Also think you might want to try playing around getting some snappy clucks/cutts that will help you feel the amount of air draw/lip pressure needed which will then enable you to transition into yelps.....seems counter-intuitive, but it helped me.

[Sir-diealot]

I don't know a lot about theses suction type callers, but it sounds like the internals in the mouth piece may be to large.   Your technique sounds like it's on the right track.  But if those internals are to big it's really going to hinder your progress.  Be similar to trying to make a precision surgical cut with a butter knife.   Even if the technique is right, the end result won't be what it could be.   Good luck and have fun with it.

Not sure if you are thinking this is a trumpet or if I just don't know enough to understand? (Not sure if you are on a cell phone if you would see the picture)

[Sir-diealot]

Have you tried putting a lipstop on your wingbone? Put one on there and adjust it until your get a more consistent sound. If you don't have one, make one. You can make one out of a faucet washer, old style fishing cork or rubber stopper. Also pull your air a little longer if you can. Practice pulling a long consistent note before trying to yelp. A little more lip pressure should also bring your pitch up some.

Good advise here. Your air control is very choppy. Take your time and "draw" air and use as little as possible. Choking off the air on the bell end will allow you to use less air and you can open up as you want to get louder.
A good practice technique as Larry said, is to just do a single note and hold it. That will force you to draw smoothly.
Keep practicing. 

Okay thank you, my ring finger on right hand seems to want to sit in the bell nicely but then it removes my sound chamber, I will work on it more though. Thanks.

Just a thought, ring finger on the bell opening can work, but I think you might have more luck sliding the right hand down where the index/middle finger is on the bell end, gives a larger chamber and just maybe more volume/character/control. Also think you might want to try playing around getting some snappy clucks/cutts that will help you feel the amount of air draw/lip pressure needed which will then enable you to transition into yelps.....seems counter-intuitive, but it helped me.

I am not sure how to get clucks or cutts. Not even sure I am doing it right to get yelps, all the videos I find on youtube are for trumpets so I am kinda trying to convert it over but sometimes I don't quite get it. This is the playlist I have been working with. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbF6qMoJbTLzkdmzIrqSSxeTkJKKmXVg8

[1iagobblergetter]

Sounds like your improving...Practice..practice..and more practice...I also agree get a lipstop on it..Cadence seems fast on your yelps at times. Less air drawn also maybe..Lip placement?? Maybe also quit thinking so much about what your doing and play it if that makes any sense. Lol...
Set your recorder out and play then listen to yourself and try improving on it. You'll get it..

[guesswho]

Not sure if you are thinking this is a trumpet or if I just don't know enough to understand? (Not sure if you are on a cell phone if you would see the picture)

Yes, I can see it's a wingbone.   What I'm saying is the hole in the first joint may be to big, making it hard to control the air flow and tone.   I know I've played some wingbones with larger internals (bones) and I couldn't get the sound I'm looking for.  Same with some trumpets.   This may not be the case, just a thought.