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Win, Long beard issue !!!!!!????

Started by nyhunter, May 11, 2018, 05:05:05 PM

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Bowguy

Quote from: Dtrkyman on May 12, 2018, 08:52:00 PM
We gutted the bolt on that 835, new spring and pin still the same issue, dented primers no boom, literally shot everything else, maybe a bad run of shells with primers set in deeper? He went to mag blends.
Still say it's a gun issue especially if it happens multiple times. Just shoot the shells through another gun to rule out the first. There's no way Winchester is selling shells w primers that don't fire.
I'm not saying it's not possible but it's highly unlikely.
Not arguing you didn't see something but one gun and some shells even w changing a firing pin and spring still is using the same gun. Maybe the firing pin and spring weren't the issue.
Years ago I had a kimber 7mm-08. I reload and upon shooting it it seemed the hits on the primers were light and not going off. Sent the gun to kimber 3 times. They told me to try dif factory Ammo. I was too stupid to reload right I guess. Didn't help. They checked the pin, springs, head spacing, etc etc.
I finally just sold the gun.
I used to shoot a minimum of 400 rounds a week, 1500 on some weekends for about 15 years straight. Not saying it's more than all shooters but more than lots. In all that shooting I don't recall but one or two, except for the kimber, misfires.
Winchester ,to my knowledge and I'm not sure, didn't make primers specifically for the longbeards. Why the just stop working??

KentuckyHeadhunter

Never ever had a problem with LB #6 3" through my 835.  If that happened to me in front of a turkey I would probably just throw my gun at the dang bird. 
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mikejd

Quote from: owlhoot on May 12, 2018, 09:47:26 PM
Quote from: mikejd on May 12, 2018, 07:30:12 PM
Did they change longbeards this year. I am still using older boxes but the ones I have are completely sealed. Impossible for shot to ever fall out.

I had bought a few boxes when they first come out and had some loose shot but mainly the overshot card that is four petals I had some broken and fell off in the magazine tube . Guess a guy could glue them,nail polish or something. The ones that rattle all or part of the resin in busted and would not use them on turkey hunt.  That with the poi poa shifting and I stuck with the federal shells.  Not a problem in years.
Mag blend is another good choice.
You're not saving any money dealing with stuff like this.  :z-twocents:

This is the reason I don't use any Hevi shot. Made like crap in my opinion. They always open. Buffer all over the place and pellets are rattling around in there. For 5 bucks a shot the quality should be way better. That's why I use the longbeards. Do they put patterns like Hevi? no way! but they are far better made.

owlhoot

Thought a lot of guys sealed those up too. The hevi that is. Candle wax.

owlhoot

Primer strike weak .Bad primer, primer not fully seated.
No manufacturer wants it to happen. Gun or shells.
Seems it has been happening a lot to be a gun issue.
Has been reported on here and many other forums for a few years now. Most common is the 835 gun but others too.


tomhunter

Update to my previous post. I took out my gun today and shot 4 different brands without any issues. Different sizes and weights. I will not be using long beards again. Cost me a nice bird.