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To cut or not to cut...

Started by Aurora Wild, May 10, 2018, 12:23:08 PM

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Aurora Wild

I was listening to a hen yesterday that had a high pitched, fairly clear yelp. She sounded more like a coffee stirrer than any of the diaphragms in my vest. When I got home I played around with making up some simple double reed calls.  It struck me as funny how we (at least me) have become so wrapped up in experimenting with different cuts and combos, I forgot how sweet a simple double reed with no cuts sounds. Do any of you guys use calls without cuts?

GobbleNut

Although I prefer a call that has some rasp on the backend of a yelp,...which is hard to get (for me anyway) without having some sort of reed cut,...I always carry an assortment of calls that have varying qualities of sound.   That way, regardless of the situation I am in, I will be able to produce the sounds that I think are called for in any particular circumstance,...within the limits of my abilities. 

I agree that many of us get hung up on trying to achieve that classic duel-tone, "contest caller" yelp when, in reality, that sound is not necessarily what any specific gobbler wants to hear,...and even more certainly is not what every single hen turkey in the woods sounds like when she yelps.  Of course, it doesn't hurt to be able to do that but, in my experience, being able to put a call in your mouth that will duplicate just about any hen you might hear in the woods is a good attribute. 

Some callers can do that with a single call in their mouths, but I think that is a rare ability for most mouth call users.  For most of us, having several calls with varying cuts,...or no cuts,...helps us get the sounds we might need at any given time.

Gooserbat

I don't run any plain two reeds but I do run some Gulvis style calls with no back tension.  Those wrinkles do help put a little rasp back in the call.  Coincidentally I also run a stacked frame from time to time. 
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southern_leo

I agree alot of hunters get too caught up on rasp. From my experience most hens I hear in the woods don't have near the rasp you hear in alot of calls. I strive to build my calls with a realistic balance and seek to imitate a hen not an 80 year old smoker lol. Keep in mind many calls are made to appeal to the hunter more than the turkey. Not knocking guys who like heavy rasp just saying I haven't heard it translate as much in the woods from real hens as much as I hear from alot of popular calls these days.

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Aurora Wild

I noticed running these calls that it takes a bit more manipulation to get the Yelp to break over. I have to drop my jaw in a more pronounced manner to get the end note to drop than I do with a cut reed in the call.

gergg

I grew up hunting with a plain triple reed with no cuts and make my own this way today, sounds like a turkey to me. I can get plenty of rasp if need be without cuts.
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Quote from: gergg on May 22, 2018, 09:13:04 PM
I grew up hunting with a plain triple reed with no cuts and make my own this way today, sounds like a turkey to me. I can get plenty of rasp if need be without cuts.

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