Paper is different then birds, no where did I read him advocating shooting at turkeys over 40yds. I have a pile of these GT20 shells. And glad and appreciative he's sharing his results. Soon as I get my guns assembled I'll be figuring out choke combos aswell. TSS is a different breed of shell, I'm trying to learn what does and doesn't work. Just glad folks are posting results with the factory stuff over the handloaded unavailable stuff. Most handloads can beat factory stuff but unavailable unless you do your own.