Im sad to see the HWs being discontinued... The HW #7s were the holy grail of a 20 ga turkey load IMO. Im from NY so i really feel like im getting screwed. #8 is the smallest legal shot size and we cant order any ammunition, unless you go through a FFL. #7 TSS is just overkill at the expense of pellet count, just like the HW #6s were. But i completely understand why they went with TSS 7s. They just need to add TSS #8s for next year and maybe ill see much better patterns which might justify the major price increase over the HWs . At this point im on the fence about ordering a bunch of 20 ga HW 7s while they're still available or just bite the bullet and start rolling my own.