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870 youth just not getting the expected numbers. Updated

Started by shedhunta, April 12, 2017, 08:39:32 AM

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Quote from: shedhunta on April 13, 2017, 10:29:35 AM
Well curiosity got me.  I called Federal and they said my numbers are great.  Of course they never heard of bad lot numbers etc.  So I cut one open.  1.5oz of shot and 330 pellets.  Exactly what they said it should be.  So now William is going to let me try another choke and I will try and find another lot #.  Dont want to order and get 5V again.  Just wanna get through this season.  Unless a miracle happens I surely will have TSS in my shell loops next season. 

Thanks to William for all his help.

Sounds like you're on the right path.  I find it hard to believe that Federal's QA/QC is as suspect as some would suggest. I too have a stash of 5v and 5u lots.  Patterned great outta my gun and hammered a limit of gobblers no-doubt dead.  If they make them any better than I've observed, they should be illegal.

owlhoot

5P lots is one you may want.  Average  160's which is 40 pellets more in the 10 " out of my boys 21" 870  with a Truloc choke. The non-HW special  one, Than the 5v lots . 5v do 115-130 out of my weatherby sa08 with the hevi-choke also.  Which with a bead is tight enough for these eyes!

chatterbox

I have all different lot #s, and don't really notice much of a difference.
Sometimes I shoot 150ish, sometimes 130-140, but all lots hammer gobblers hard!

nyhunter

here's what i got with these shells lot# 5V37VK315.
Tru Lock HW #7 choke, 119,164,129
sum toy 562-5  choke,  120, 157, 167 
I'm shooting an 870 with a 21" barrel

I cleaned the barrel between every shot with Denatured alcohol, and a bronze brush then dried it with clean patches. 

one thing i noticed right off was each box had at least one shell that rattled with loose BB's really bad. all 3 low numbers were shells that rattled bad, on top of that not 1 of those 3 shots hit in the same stop.

All 3 high numbers were shells that rattled very little," no different than last years shells" and all 3 of them hit right dead on from where i had the gun sighted in last year. even both chokes hit the bull's eye dead on.
All together i had 8 shells that rattled like a baby rattle.

shedhunta

Quote from: nyhunter on April 18, 2017, 08:22:25 PM
here's what i got with these shells lot# 5V37VK315.
Tru Lock HW #7 choke, 119,164,129
sum toy 562-5  choke,  120, 157, 167 
I'm shooting an 870 with a 21" barrel

I cleaned the barrel between every shot with Denatured alcohol, and a bronze brush then dried it with clean patches. 

one thing i noticed right off was each box had at least one shell that rattled with loose BB's really bad. all 3 low numbers were shells that rattled bad, on top of that not 1 of those 3 shots hit in the same stop.

All 3 high numbers were shells that rattled very little," no different than last years shells" and all 3 of them hit right dead on from where i had the gun sighted in last year. even both chokes hit the bull's eye dead on.
All together i had 8 shells that rattled like a baby rattle.

Thanks for reply.  I cut one that was rattling bad.  It had 330 pellets and 1.48 ounces of shot.  Pretty much dead on.  I have never loaded shotshells but could they possibly be light on powder or buffer material in the shot?   Who knows.  All I know is I do not like the inconsistency. 

Longshanks

 Never seen a drop in numbers with the Fed 7's. My 870 actually shoots increased numbers slightly on the 2,3,4th shot as the barrel gets a little dirty. Have had several turkey guns that shoot better after the first shot. I have also experienced new chokes shooting better over time. Had some terrible results with a Ventilator .655/ 870sm and took it out and shot a few boxes of cheap shells through it and then shot some of my best lead pattern ever with turkey loads.