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Quote from: Tennessee Lead on March 18, 2017, 09:44:00 AMQuote from: StruttinGobbler3 on March 18, 2017, 07:37:19 AMThis can be a controversial topic to be honest. As a born again Christian man, here is my take. The Sabbath is actually an Old Testament concept. According to our calendar, I believe the actual Sabbath would actually fall on Saturday. Our relationship with Christ under the New Covenant is not based on one particular day of the week, rather an ongoing personal relationship that should be interwoven into our daily lives. Sunday seems to be the day that the Christian church has selected to be our official day of worship, as well as Wednesday evenings in more recent times. The real issue here is not whether you are at church once a week, but rather are you living for Christ and communing with Him each day? Personally, I see no issue with hunting/fishing before or after services on a Sunday, as long as you're not placing your hobbies above your worship in the list of priorities. Anything we place a higher value on than Christ can become an idol in our lives, hunting and fishing included. A lot of people don't like to hear that, and I'm probably stepping on some toes here. However I've been guilty of everything I've listed for you. Even recently I've noticed my priorities getting a bit out of line, and that's something the Lord has pointed out to me these past few weeks. It happens rather easily. So the real question is not whether it's wrong to hunt before or after church, which in my opinion it is not, but are you placing Christ as your top priority? Hope this reply gives you some insight.You are 100% spot on!When Christ was crucified on the cross the old law and covenant was not destroyed but fulfilled and the vale was torn down. Under Grace we have the ability to be baptized for the remission of Sin and put on Christ. We can speak with the Father through Christ instead of relying on a priest and a curtain. Under Grace we don't need a blood sacrifice to wipe out a sin. That sacrifice was made as Christ's blood was shed his blood is sufficient for all our sins. Living under grace we can repent for sins and ask forgiveness and also have others pray on our behalf. The Sabbath under the Old Covenant falls on Saturday. So hunting for a couple hours on Sunday morning before service wouldn't be considered hunting on the Sabbath. In the last few months I've really been struggling to keep Christ as my number one priority. I've made turkey hunting into an idol. I have been putting off studying the word and have slacked off on Prayer throughout the day just Morning and night as of late. I haven't allowed myself to see it until I read your post. I would like to ask for forgiveness and strength and guidance to keep Christ as my number one priority. If you will go to the Lord in prayer on my behalf. I would appreciate it greatly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: StruttinGobbler3 on March 18, 2017, 07:37:19 AMThis can be a controversial topic to be honest. As a born again Christian man, here is my take. The Sabbath is actually an Old Testament concept. According to our calendar, I believe the actual Sabbath would actually fall on Saturday. Our relationship with Christ under the New Covenant is not based on one particular day of the week, rather an ongoing personal relationship that should be interwoven into our daily lives. Sunday seems to be the day that the Christian church has selected to be our official day of worship, as well as Wednesday evenings in more recent times. The real issue here is not whether you are at church once a week, but rather are you living for Christ and communing with Him each day? Personally, I see no issue with hunting/fishing before or after services on a Sunday, as long as you're not placing your hobbies above your worship in the list of priorities. Anything we place a higher value on than Christ can become an idol in our lives, hunting and fishing included. A lot of people don't like to hear that, and I'm probably stepping on some toes here. However I've been guilty of everything I've listed for you. Even recently I've noticed my priorities getting a bit out of line, and that's something the Lord has pointed out to me these past few weeks. It happens rather easily. So the real question is not whether it's wrong to hunt before or after church, which in my opinion it is not, but are you placing Christ as your top priority? Hope this reply gives you some insight.
Quote from: StruttinGobbler3 on March 18, 2017, 10:58:15 AMQuote from: Tennessee Lead on March 18, 2017, 09:44:00 AMQuote from: StruttinGobbler3 on March 18, 2017, 07:37:19 AMThis can be a controversial topic to be honest. As a born again Christian man, here is my take. The Sabbath is actually an Old Testament concept. According to our calendar, I believe the actual Sabbath would actually fall on Saturday. Our relationship with Christ under the New Covenant is not based on one particular day of the week, rather an ongoing personal relationship that should be interwoven into our daily lives. Sunday seems to be the day that the Christian church has selected to be our official day of worship, as well as Wednesday evenings in more recent times. The real issue here is not whether you are at church once a week, but rather are you living for Christ and communing with Him each day? Personally, I see no issue with hunting/fishing before or after services on a Sunday, as long as you're not placing your hobbies above your worship in the list of priorities. Anything we place a higher value on than Christ can become an idol in our lives, hunting and fishing included. A lot of people don't like to hear that, and I'm probably stepping on some toes here. However I've been guilty of everything I've listed for you. Even recently I've noticed my priorities getting a bit out of line, and that's something the Lord has pointed out to me these past few weeks. It happens rather easily. So the real question is not whether it's wrong to hunt before or after church, which in my opinion it is not, but are you placing Christ as your top priority? Hope this reply gives you some insight.You are 100% spot on!When Christ was crucified on the cross the old law and covenant was not destroyed but fulfilled and the vale was torn down. Under Grace we have the ability to be baptized for the remission of Sin and put on Christ. We can speak with the Father through Christ instead of relying on a priest and a curtain. Under Grace we don't need a blood sacrifice to wipe out a sin. That sacrifice was made as Christ's blood was shed his blood is sufficient for all our sins. Living under grace we can repent for sins and ask forgiveness and also have others pray on our behalf. The Sabbath under the Old Covenant falls on Saturday. So hunting for a couple hours on Sunday morning before service wouldn't be considered hunting on the Sabbath. In the last few months I've really been struggling to keep Christ as my number one priority. I've made turkey hunting into an idol. I have been putting off studying the word and have slacked off on Prayer throughout the day just Morning and night as of late. I haven't allowed myself to see it until I read your post. I would like to ask for forgiveness and strength and guidance to keep Christ as my number one priority. If you will go to the Lord in prayer on my behalf. I would appreciate it greatly. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMy friend, I'm always honored to pray for a brother in Christ, and I ask that you pray for me also. It's very easy in today's fast paced world to shift your worship, prayer, and Bible study to the backburner. The past few months I've been guilty of this myself
Quote from: Brian Fahs on March 18, 2017, 11:08:22 AMHere in pennsylvania it is illegal to hunt turkeys on sunday......
Quote from: compton30 on March 18, 2017, 12:42:42 PMQuote from: Brian Fahs on March 18, 2017, 11:08:22 AMHere in pennsylvania it is illegal to hunt turkeys on sunday......Worst rule ever. If the "enlightened" want to attend their service, awesome. I wanna hunt!
Quote from: The Cohutta Strutter on March 18, 2017, 01:34:17 PMStruttinGobbler3 and Tennessee Lead can you pray for me that I will maintain my focus on God during each turkey season and the remainder of my days ? I want to sincerely thank y'all for the truths each of you shared in your post. I'm praying for you two as well.
Quote from: StruttinGobbler3 on March 18, 2017, 01:52:44 PMQuote from: The Cohutta Strutter on March 18, 2017, 01:34:17 PMStruttinGobbler3 and Tennessee Lead can you pray for me that I will maintain my focus on God during each turkey season and the remainder of my days ? I want to sincerely thank y'all for the truths each of you shared in your post. I'm praying for you two as well.I will be glad to my friend. God bless
Quote from: The Cohutta Strutter on March 18, 2017, 02:22:50 PMQuote from: StruttinGobbler3 on March 18, 2017, 01:52:44 PMQuote from: The Cohutta Strutter on March 18, 2017, 01:34:17 PMStruttinGobbler3 and Tennessee Lead can you pray for me that I will maintain my focus on God during each turkey season and the remainder of my days ? I want to sincerely thank y'all for the truths each of you shared in your post. I'm praying for you two as well.I will be glad to my friend. God blessThank you and I don't think it's coincidence in the timing of your post. This past Wednesday at our small group our shortcomings were revealed. Grown men tearing up with guilt because they realized they had been selling their time short with Jesus. I'm guilty. It's a simple concept for Christians but sometimes such a difficult thing for us to do I guess partly because of our sinful nature and all the other distractions that come our way. Jesus just wants to spend time with you.