Lead is lead I agree I still shoot HTL loads but have been on several turkey hunts where Longbear #5 flattened birds at distances we claim on this site are unethical. I have personally witnessed birds killed at 55-60 and 60+ range finder verified after the shot again I was not the shooter just stating a factual data points of the 5 birds taken at 50+ over the last two years I have personally witnessed 0 shots fired and birds running off no wounded birds 5 of 5 has some significance. After years of turkey hunting I can say with reasonable confidence those same distances with standard lead loads I would be telling you storys of unethical turkey hunters shooting at ranges to far.
I'm not advocating 60+ yard shots but with the right load aka HTL and Longbear and the right choke it is not unethical to shoot a turkey at 45-50 yards.
-BP