20 Gauge Longbeards, Now a Reality

[Spring Creek Calls]

Check out Clark's post in the Turkey Guns section.

[VA_Birdhunter]

Awesome!!!

[Tennessee Lead]

Perfect timing my Dad just got this Mossberg SA-20 today!



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[Tail Feathers]

Looking forward to trying them out, but it will be hard to beat out my Federal HW 7's.  But I will see.

[Greg Massey]

Agree, i just wish they were going to have them in 7 shot...not just 5 and 6 shot...

[Hooks' n' Beards']

I will shoot them.

[Gooserbat]

No offense but I'm not sure I'd like them.  Longbeards are infact devastating but the patern leaves little room for error at close range.  I guided seven hunters last spring with 4 birds missed inside of 25 yards...all with Longbeards.  Just my opinion, now carry-on.

[VaTuRkStOmPeR]

No offense but I'm not sure I'd like them.  Longbeards are infact devastating but the patern leaves little room for error at close range.  I guided seven hunters last spring with 4 birds missed inside of 25 yards...all with Longbeards.  Just my opinion, now carry-on.

The problem isn't the load.  The problem is inexperienced hunters who fail to realize you don't have to shoot a turkey in the brain at 15 yards.

If they would bring their point of aim down to the feather line below the wattles the problem would be eliminated and they'd still have a devastating load at 45 yards.

You can't have an open 15 yard pattern and expect to have a pattern dense enough to kill at 45.

As a guide, you have the ability to tell the shooter where to shoot the bird.  Tell them to bring their point of aim down and shoot for feathers the next time you encounter that situation.

[dejake]

Totally agree with Gooserbat.  I wouldn't use them if they were given to me.  I'll stick with the Fed HW7s.

[BowBendr]

Totally agree with Gooserbat.  I wouldn't use them if they were given to me.  I'll stick with the Fed HW7s.

X2....I get far superior "hunting" patterns with the HW 7's for my hunting style. It won't even be close.
I also foresee a lot of children/kids whiffing on birds over dekes (not discussing dekes) at 15 yds, when they'd be far better served by a 20 ga. load of high-brass 7.5's out of a lt. mod. choke at 15 yds....my kids don't shoot what I shoot, I do provide them with wiggle room when hunting/guiding "kids" in that style

[Gooserbat]

No offense but I'm not sure I'd like them.  Longbeards are infact devastating but the patern leaves little room for error at close range.  I guided seven hunters last spring with 4 birds missed inside of 25 yards...all with Longbeards.  Just my opinion, now carry-on.

The problem isn't the load.  The problem is inexperienced hunters who fail to realize you don't have to shoot a turkey in the brain at 15 yards.

If they would bring their point of aim down to the feather line below the wattles the problem would be eliminated and they'd still have a devastating load at 45 yards.

You can't have an open 15 yard pattern and expect to have a pattern dense enough to kill at 45.

As a guide, you have the ability to tell the shooter where to shoot the bird.  Tell them to bring their point of aim down and shoot for feathers the next time you encounter that situation.

You read a lot of advertising I think.  I have enough real world experience in killing turkeys to know better.  All the said birds were missed by hunters who know what they are doing.  And yes I've laid 7 or 8 to rest with longbeards.  like i said devastating at long range... And as far as patern I can use my 20 ga with HW #7 and kill to 40 and farther than is OG friendly and still have a basketball size pattern at 20 yards.  TSS is even more effective. 

[VaTuRkStOmPeR]

I would say that most people hunting with a guide don't really know what they're doing. If they did know what they're doing they'd be running public ground  or have secured much cheaper access.

If a guy doesn't realize that being closer to the body on close quarter birds with ultratight patterns is more practical then shame on him.

I guess a guy who spends 30 plus mornings a spring and chases them all over the country each year couldn't possibly have an opinion formed based on field/guiding experience instead of some worthless turkey hunting magazine.

To each his own but I tell my people to bring it down and I also do so myself when they are in tight.

[Spring Creek Calls]

The blame for the turkeys that I've missed lays squarely on my shoulders not my gun or load within it.

[outdoors]

I AGREE WITH SPRING CREEK CALLS
IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR GUN CAN DO WITH THE SHOT U USE
HOW CAN U GO WRONG ...... EXCEPT........

[Gooserbat]

Because when you get excited you don't always shoot straight, and if the game doesn't excite me I wouldn't play.