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It's about time

Started by Bob, January 05, 2016, 07:58:48 PM

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VA_Birdhunter

Quote from: turkeyfoot on January 06, 2016, 09:00:07 PM
The 2nd amendment mentions a well regulated militia along with the right to bear arms.  It does not say anything about firearms.
Hard to argue with someone that doesn't even understand 2nd amendment curious to what you think  "  the right to bear arms means " and your really just not getting it if you think anything that nut of president passes as far as gun laws will stop any violence
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NO he's more worried about releasing thousands of felons with reductions in sentences...then help them get a fed job by not having to put on there application there a convicted felon!  What a joke!!
Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens

kyturkeyhunter4


silvestris

John Lott has most of the answers to this issue:  http://crimeresearch.org/

As for me, responsible gun control means a sharp focus on the front sight in a deadly force situation that I did not create and from which I or some other innocent person cannot safely extricate ourselves.  Evil exists.
"[T]he changing environment will someday be totally and irrevocably unsuitable for the wild turkey.  Unless mankind precedes the birds in extinction, we probably will not be hunting turkeys for too much longer."  Ken Morgan, "Turkey Hunting, A One Man Game

jakesdad

Quote from: Bob on January 06, 2016, 08:05:04 PM
Quote from: jakesdad on January 06, 2016, 07:26:14 PM
I firmly believe Obama invite to the NRA was nothing more than a ploy to set them up in a situation where no matter what they said they'd be made to look like the root of the problem. You can guarantee a townhall meeting set up by Obama would have a loaded crowd of bleeding heart libs and media in the crowd. I completely agree the strict enforcement of current laws is what is needed. As far as the background check remember that driving is a priviledge,owning a firearm is a constitutional right.
It's funny how these liberals are all about saving innocent lives thru gun control but they're all in favor of murdering babies thru abortions.that alone should tell you where their motives really lie.
The right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is a constitutional right also.  How are the victims of gun violence making out with their rights
The 2nd amendment mentions a well regulated militia along with the right to bear arms.  It does not say anything about firearms.

So how am I making out with my rights if I can't defend myself and my family?  If the 2nd amendment stating the right to bear arms doesn't mean firearms,what does it mean? A left arm and a right arm? I'm sorry but it seems to me you've been drinking too much of the liberal kook-aid.


"There are turkey hunters and people who hunt turkeys.I hope I am remembered as a turkey hunter"

357MAGNOLE

Shooot how did I miss out on this thread.

The president is so full of crap, he is not out for Americas best interest. That guy is a phony piece o shiz..

The most alarming thing to me is that with his EO's the FBI/ATF whomever is conducting these "background checks" have access to everyone's medical records.  Sounds like a good idea until you consider the fact that if at any point you had counseling or took anti depressants the government will now have the authority to strip you of your rights to gun ownership.  There is more to it than that, but essentially they are creating a foot in the door to strip people of their 2A rights.

Let me leave you all with something.

The Cloward-Piven aka "Coward Proven" strategy is based on the teachings of Saul Alinsky a communist socialist died about 43 years ago, but his writings have influenced the politicians who control our  today.

Hillary Clinton did a college thesis on his writings and Barack Hussein Obama writes about him in his books.

Died: June 12, 1972,
Carmel-by-the-Sea, Ca

Education: University of Chicago

Spouse: Irene Alinsky.

Books:
Rules for Liberal Radicals
Reveille for Radicals

Anyone think this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S. ?

All eight rules are currently in play.

There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a Liberal Socialist state.

The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare: Control healthcare and you control the people.
DONE.

2) Poverty: Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
DONE.

3) Debt: Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
DONE.

4) Gun Control: Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government.
That way you are able to create a police state.
WORKING ON IT.

5) Welfare: Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
DONE.

6) Education: Take control of what people read and listen to. Take control of what children learn in school.
DONE.

7) Religion: Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.
DONE.

8) Class Warfare: Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
DONE.

Any of this sound like what is happening to the United States?

Alinsky simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule.
Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots."

The "Useful" Liberal Idiots have destroyed every  in which they have seized power and control. It's presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.

If people can read this and still say everything is just fine. They're the useful idiots. "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

Hillary Clinton a liberal Socialist is running for office! She is backed by George Soros a Communist Socialist who backs and controls the Devout Muslim, Barack Hussein Obama...
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."--Thomas Jefferson

fallhnt

357 is spot on. It's sad to say Obama had approx 48% of the vote going in to the last election. I also think this is a set up to help Hillary in. Her comments about what Numb Nuts did can be undone by the next president.
When I turkey hunt I use a DSD decoy

357MAGNOLE

Agree entirely, and the Republicans have already stated their first actions would be to undo what Obama has done. 

If that crooked witch gets in office that is literally the end of free America as we know it.
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."--Thomas Jefferson

Bowguy

Guys the coolest thing on this site is all the great guys n lack of arguing you find on other sites. We're all capable of getting angry when people try n tread on things we're passionate about. Many have stated liberalism is a mental disorder. It certainly is. No sense trying to convince some half wit into making sense. They aren't capable. Not calling anyone in particular names btw. Someone on opposite sides cannot and will not be convinced. Be cool to see their faces if the old lady gets indicted n Trump wins!
Let this thread die is my opinion

kyturkeyhunter4

Looks like BOB needs to seat down and have a talk with UNCLE TED

mwr

Man I sure do like turkey hunting!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

mgm1955


Tail Feathers

While we're at it why don't we trim down some of those other Constitutional ammendments too.

How about that First amendment?  The news paper ticks me off some days, and let's not get started on CNN or Al Jazeera Network.  Let's muzzle the ones I don't like.  Or maybe the ones Obama doesn't like?  Who gets to choose?

How about that Fourteenth amendment?  Did we really need to make freed slaves (or their ancestors) citizens?  Oooh, it's getting sensitive on these things isn't it?

The Fifth amendment keeps criminals from confessing so we ought to do away with that one too.

The Fourth amendment helps criminals get away with crime.  The police really ought to be able to search the criminals and their houses to root out crime.  After all, people are hurt by crime all the time.

Ok, back to reality.  See how slippery the slope is when people begin to give up freedoms and rights for safety?  Soon, they wind up with neither.
Love to hunt the King of Spring!

Will

I originally typed a vary lengthy post but I'll simplify it......Im a cop and he's a POS!
Legacy!!!!! His legacy is that he's the worst hands down!!!!!!

Bob

LOL, the entertainment value of some of the responses is priceless.  Nothing hurts worse than being called dirty names like liberal, socialist etc., by people that have no concept of the meaning of those words.  I'd like to respond at further length but I'm heading out to shoot a coyote or two. 

bbcoach

Quote from: Tail Feathers on January 07, 2016, 09:58:28 PM
While we're at it why don't we trim down some of those other Constitutional ammendments too.

How about that First amendment?  The news paper ticks me off some days, and let's not get started on CNN or Al Jazeera Network.  Let's muzzle the ones I don't like.  Or maybe the ones Obama doesn't like?  Who gets to choose?

How about that Fourteenth amendment?  Did we really need to make freed slaves (or their ancestors) citizens?  Oooh, it's getting sensitive on these things isn't it?

The Fifth amendment keeps criminals from confessing so we ought to do away with that one too.

The Fourth amendment helps criminals get away with crime.  The police really ought to be able to search the criminals and their houses to root out crime.  After all, people are hurt by crime all the time.

Ok, back to reality.  See how slippery the slope is when people begin to give up freedoms and rights for safety?  Soon, they wind up with neither.
Perfectly said Tail feathers!  These Rights (not Privileges) are why we broke away from England 240 years ago.  People have DIED defending these RIGHTS and we cannot allow anyone to take away, even a small portion of these Rights.