Yes, i know,i had a post asking if the Pure gold and indian creek tubes shot lead as good as htl loads.I was on their site but i didn't see crio + chokes listed.I thought they made them for them so i may have to call to see.But thats for my summer test and tune for next season,don't have time to test for this season.Going with my old standby.I am interested in sumtoys suggestions for a choke made specificly for turkey shoots.I certainly didn't mean to offend any one especially the great sponsors of this awesome site,i absoulutly plan on supporting them by using their products when i can.....ward