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Quote from: beagler on June 15, 2015, 09:02:47 PMLeaning towards the .243. Figure I can use it for a coyote calling gun when it's not in my daughter's hands.
Quote from: J-Shaped on June 15, 2015, 11:56:53 PMQuote from: beagler on June 15, 2015, 09:02:47 PMLeaning towards the .243. Figure I can use it for a coyote calling gun when it's not in my daughter's hands. You won't be sorry. The notion that the .243 is not enough gun for whitetails is comical. Use a well constructed bullet and shoot them in the vitals (same goes for the larger calibers mentioned) and you won't have any problems. Bullets matter way more than than what's stamped on the opposite end of the case and people seem to be lost on that concept. Look at what HTL shot has done for the smaller gauge shotguns and turkey hunting. Put something like an 80 gr Barnes TTSX in the .243 and it will amaze you. Similar concept.
Quote from: Onpoint on June 16, 2015, 12:09:55 AMQuote from: J-Shaped on June 15, 2015, 11:56:53 PMQuote from: beagler on June 15, 2015, 09:02:47 PMLeaning towards the .243. Figure I can use it for a coyote calling gun when it's not in my daughter's hands. You won't be sorry. The notion that the .243 is not enough gun for whitetails is comical. Use a well constructed bullet and shoot them in the vitals (same goes for the larger calibers mentioned) and you won't have any problems. Bullets matter way more than than what's stamped on the opposite end of the case and people seem to be lost on that concept. Look at what HTL shot has done for the smaller gauge shotguns and turkey hunting. Put something like an 80 gr Barnes TTSX in the .243 and it will amaze you. Similar concept.I had good luck with the 80 grain Barnes. Thing is, it wasn't as accurate in my gun as fusions and corelokts. The corelokts will shoot clovers at 100. The fusions are pretty dang close. I had moved and couldn't find my bullets any dang where. Had a stock pile of corelokts. So I used the fusions.. both shots I mentioned were with federal fusions. I'm not saying it's not enough gun. I'm just saying that there are guns that pack alot more punch that still have very manageable recoil..
Quote from: davisd9 on June 16, 2015, 03:34:59 PMQuote from: Onpoint on June 16, 2015, 12:09:55 AMQuote from: J-Shaped on June 15, 2015, 11:56:53 PMQuote from: beagler on June 15, 2015, 09:02:47 PMLeaning towards the .243. Figure I can use it for a coyote calling gun when it's not in my daughter's hands. You won't be sorry. The notion that the .243 is not enough gun for whitetails is comical. Use a well constructed bullet and shoot them in the vitals (same goes for the larger calibers mentioned) and you won't have any problems. Bullets matter way more than than what's stamped on the opposite end of the case and people seem to be lost on that concept. Look at what HTL shot has done for the smaller gauge shotguns and turkey hunting. Put something like an 80 gr Barnes TTSX in the .243 and it will amaze you. Similar concept.I had good luck with the 80 grain Barnes. Thing is, it wasn't as accurate in my gun as fusions and corelokts. The corelokts will shoot clovers at 100. The fusions are pretty dang close. I had moved and couldn't find my bullets any dang where. Had a stock pile of corelokts. So I used the fusions.. both shots I mentioned were with federal fusions. I'm not saying it's not enough gun. I'm just saying that there are guns that pack alot more punch that still have very manageable recoil..Rifle accuracy is like the 10" circle if you are not shooting 400+ yards. The kill area of a mature deer is like the size of a pie plate, you do not need extra tight groupings to kill a deer. Focus on a great bullet that has good accuracy and you will kill way more of what you shoot than using a good bullet with great accuracy.
Quote from: davisd9 on June 16, 2015, 03:32:28 PMPick a good bullet and none of the concerns are really concerns.
Quote from: Onpoint on June 16, 2015, 09:24:39 PMQuote from: davisd9 on June 16, 2015, 03:34:59 PMQuote from: Onpoint on June 16, 2015, 12:09:55 AMQuote from: J-Shaped on June 15, 2015, 11:56:53 PMQuote from: beagler on June 15, 2015, 09:02:47 PMLeaning towards the .243. Figure I can use it for a coyote calling gun when it's not in my daughter's hands. You won't be sorry. The notion that the .243 is not enough gun for whitetails is comical. Use a well constructed bullet and shoot them in the vitals (same goes for the larger calibers mentioned) and you won't have any problems. Bullets matter way more than than what's stamped on the opposite end of the case and people seem to be lost on that concept. Look at what HTL shot has done for the smaller gauge shotguns and turkey hunting. Put something like an 80 gr Barnes TTSX in the .243 and it will amaze you. Similar concept.I had good luck with the 80 grain Barnes. Thing is, it wasn't as accurate in my gun as fusions and corelokts. The corelokts will shoot clovers at 100. The fusions are pretty dang close. I had moved and couldn't find my bullets any dang where. Had a stock pile of corelokts. So I used the fusions.. both shots I mentioned were with federal fusions. I'm not saying it's not enough gun. I'm just saying that there are guns that pack alot more punch that still have very manageable recoil..Rifle accuracy is like the 10" circle if you are not shooting 400+ yards. The kill area of a mature deer is like the size of a pie plate, you do not need extra tight groupings to kill a deer. Focus on a great bullet that has good accuracy and you will kill way more of what you shoot than using a good bullet with great accuracy.Good point in your opinion, what are the 3 best deer bullets out there
Quote from: davisd9 on June 16, 2015, 09:43:35 PMQuote from: Onpoint on June 16, 2015, 09:24:39 PMQuote from: davisd9 on June 16, 2015, 03:34:59 PMQuote from: Onpoint on June 16, 2015, 12:09:55 AMQuote from: J-Shaped on June 15, 2015, 11:56:53 PMQuote from: beagler on June 15, 2015, 09:02:47 PMLeaning towards the .243. Figure I can use it for a coyote calling gun when it's not in my daughter's hands. You won't be sorry. The notion that the .243 is not enough gun for whitetails is comical. Use a well constructed bullet and shoot them in the vitals (same goes for the larger calibers mentioned) and you won't have any problems. Bullets matter way more than than what's stamped on the opposite end of the case and people seem to be lost on that concept. Look at what HTL shot has done for the smaller gauge shotguns and turkey hunting. Put something like an 80 gr Barnes TTSX in the .243 and it will amaze you. Similar concept.I had good luck with the 80 grain Barnes. Thing is, it wasn't as accurate in my gun as fusions and corelokts. The corelokts will shoot clovers at 100. The fusions are pretty dang close. I had moved and couldn't find my bullets any dang where. Had a stock pile of corelokts. So I used the fusions.. both shots I mentioned were with federal fusions. I'm not saying it's not enough gun. I'm just saying that there are guns that pack alot more punch that still have very manageable recoil..Rifle accuracy is like the 10" circle if you are not shooting 400+ yards. The kill area of a mature deer is like the size of a pie plate, you do not need extra tight groupings to kill a deer. Focus on a great bullet that has good accuracy and you will kill way more of what you shoot than using a good bullet with great accuracy.Good point in your opinion, what are the 3 best deer bullets out thereBarnes TTSX/TSX (overall best bullet IMO and can turn small guns into big guns), Sierr@ GameKings (Awesome bullet and the best lead core bullet out there, was designed for deer), Sierr@ ProHunterAll of these bullets will usually have great accuracy to go along with their performance. Also, I am guilty as the next guy of trying to get the tightest groupings I can.Sent from the Strut Zone
Quote from: Onpoint on June 16, 2015, 09:54:30 PMQuote from: davisd9 on June 16, 2015, 09:43:35 PMQuote from: Onpoint on June 16, 2015, 09:24:39 PMQuote from: davisd9 on June 16, 2015, 03:34:59 PMQuote from: Onpoint on June 16, 2015, 12:09:55 AMQuote from: J-Shaped on June 15, 2015, 11:56:53 PMQuote from: beagler on June 15, 2015, 09:02:47 PMLeaning towards the .243. Figure I can use it for a coyote calling gun when it's not in my daughter's hands. You won't be sorry. The notion that the .243 is not enough gun for whitetails is comical. Use a well constructed bullet and shoot them in the vitals (same goes for the larger calibers mentioned) and you won't have any problems. Bullets matter way more than than what's stamped on the opposite end of the case and people seem to be lost on that concept. Look at what HTL shot has done for the smaller gauge shotguns and turkey hunting. Put something like an 80 gr Barnes TTSX in the .243 and it will amaze you. Similar concept.I had good luck with the 80 grain Barnes. Thing is, it wasn't as accurate in my gun as fusions and corelokts. The corelokts will shoot clovers at 100. The fusions are pretty dang close. I had moved and couldn't find my bullets any dang where. Had a stock pile of corelokts. So I used the fusions.. both shots I mentioned were with federal fusions. I'm not saying it's not enough gun. I'm just saying that there are guns that pack alot more punch that still have very manageable recoil..Rifle accuracy is like the 10" circle if you are not shooting 400+ yards. The kill area of a mature deer is like the size of a pie plate, you do not need extra tight groupings to kill a deer. Focus on a great bullet that has good accuracy and you will kill way more of what you shoot than using a good bullet with great accuracy.Good point in your opinion, what are the 3 best deer bullets out thereBarnes TTSX/TSX (overall best bullet IMO and can turn small guns into big guns), Sierr@ GameKings (Awesome bullet and the best lead core bullet out there, was designed for deer), Sierr@ ProHunterAll of these bullets will usually have great accuracy to go along with their performance. Also, I am guilty as the next guy of trying to get the tightest groupings I can.Sent from the Strut ZoneI shoot the 130 grain game kings out of my 270. well I did anyhow. I can't seem to find any more of the federal loaded game kings around me any more
Quote from: mikejd on June 07, 2015, 02:46:32 PMQuote from: Xtrema30 on June 07, 2015, 02:38:47 PMall I've ever shot is a 7mm08 and you can't go wrong with it. I've been in camp and trailed way to many deer with a 243. i still shoot a 7mm08 and will continue too. If you can make the shot theres a good deal most of your deer will be right there or within 50 or 60 yards. I've killed my share and id say over 75% have laid in their tracks. you will get those that say a 7mm08 is a kids gun but i mean with a 7mm bullet and a 308 casing whats kids about that. plus the recoil with the winchester power point 140 grain i shoot is hardly any.Same here. I dont think 243 is enough gun for deer. I know there will be some disagreement but unless your shot is perfect your going to be out in the dark with flashlights. 7MM-08 great deer round.
Quote from: Xtrema30 on June 07, 2015, 02:38:47 PMall I've ever shot is a 7mm08 and you can't go wrong with it. I've been in camp and trailed way to many deer with a 243. i still shoot a 7mm08 and will continue too. If you can make the shot theres a good deal most of your deer will be right there or within 50 or 60 yards. I've killed my share and id say over 75% have laid in their tracks. you will get those that say a 7mm08 is a kids gun but i mean with a 7mm bullet and a 308 casing whats kids about that. plus the recoil with the winchester power point 140 grain i shoot is hardly any.