Longbeard problem

[blueridgegobbler]

Did some shooting today and had something happen that puzzles me. 3 inch #5 LB at 40 yard knocked a hole through the pattern board about 1 inch in diameter. It appeared that some of the shot clumped together, has anybody else had this problem. The # 6 did phenomenal 204 in the 10.

[owlhoot]

Count your 20"circle for pellet count

[Dr Juice]

Wow. I have suspected that could be an issue. What gun and choke combination are you using?

[Longshanks]

I did allot of testing with LB 5's and came up with some strange results. Patterns cut in half, mis-shaped patterns, hour glass patterns, softball to 12-15" patterns at 15-20yds.  The only variation I have seen with the LB 6's was different diameter patterns at close range. Killed a turkey last year with the LB 6's and it looked like I shot him with a slug. Don't know if that has to do with the barrel getting dirty shooting a number of rounds or what. The heck of it is that if I hadn't done allot of shooting with the shells I wouldn't have known. Original patterns were awesome.

[blueridgegobbler]

Remington 870 21inch barrel with 650 hastings gonna try 28 inch barrel this weekend

[Gobble!]

I have seen wads do that at 20 yards but not 40, anythings possible I guess.

[BowBendr]

I have seen vertical stringing with the 5's, some patterns shaped like an oblong hourglass.
The oddest thing I've seen is a shot I took one day with the 4's, the wad only went about 10 yds and went 90 degrees off to the right about 25 feet. The pattern was like a softball at 40 and was about 15" low/right...



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[Gooserbat]

One failure on paper, now Longbeards are junk and it's time to completely redesign the entire shell....

No seriously its possible it didn't fragment, or could have been a wad issue.  Many variables.

[K9Doc]

I bought a box of Fiocchi Turkey loads
A few years back just cause they were cheap
And I wanted to try them.
40 yards they Shot 2 slug holes into the paper and out the
Back of the 1/4" plywood!!!
Boxed them up, sent back to Fio with a letter.
They never responded.
Huh

[turkey_slayer]

I bought a box of Fiocchi Turkey loads
A few years back just cause they were cheap
And I wanted to try them.
40 yards they Shot 2 slug holes into the paper and out the
Back of the 1/4" plywood!!!
Boxed them up, sent back to Fio with a letter.
They never responded.
Huh

But you just broke the record for the tightest 10 at 40 and what most are trying to achieve

[nyhunter]

I'd try a little more open choke with 5's. There have been a few reporting's of weird shaped patterns with the larger shot and tight choke's.

[blueridgegobbler]

Nobody mentioned changing the wad simply asked a question the 6s shot great I got a .660 rhino to try the 5s thru.

[owlhoot]

The resin is not breaking up consistently ?
Why would 6 and 4 be any different ?

[BowBendr]

I'd try a little more open choke with 5's. There have been a few reporting's of weird shaped patterns with the larger shot and tight choke's.

I'd agree with that.
In the gun I did my shooting with, the LB's really didn't need to be choked much anyway, I settled on a non-ported factory .695
Extended turkey chokes were too much for them.



Sent from Gobblers Knob, NC

[Chilly]

Here is what it does to a turkey when this happens.  (not trying to hi-jack a thread just showing an experience I had with this last season)  25 yards