My best ever Lead pattern was 116 in 10" at 40 Yards with 3" 1.75 Ounce, Win Sup HV #5's, in an 870 with a 28" barrel, and an Indian Creek .665 choke. I get nice even 35 Yard patterns shot after shot, but sometimes I only get 90 in 10" at 40 Yards. But still, I'm talking about 90-116 3" #5's.