Finding what they are feeding on in the fall is key to finding them. If there is nothing for them to eat they are not going to be there. Knowing where certain foods are will help in finding them, mast crops , wild grapes and different berries are a good place to start. Here in Pa where I hunt there are beech nut trees , it's the first place I check for scratching, I hunt with a dog which makes it a little easier, but I still have to hunt where they are. knowing what they want to eat eliminates a lot of ground