Right before the "heavier than lead" revolution, I got my hands on some boxes of 3.5 inch Winchester Supremes. I remember patterning a few of those! (Ouch) I didn't like the patterns at all. I got better patterns out of 2 and 3/4 and 3 inch shells and finally settled on 3 inch Supremes. And I found that 3.5 inch shells with 2 and a quarter ounces of shot were just too much, I wasn't going to put myself through all that punishment just to shoot at a turkey. Needless to say, I still have a few 3.5 inch shells left. If I can't kill a gobbler with a 2 and 3/4 or 3 inch shell, I won't bother with it. Turkey hunting should be a fun challenge, not misery.