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Started by bpfarm, May 21, 2013, 10:16:11 AM
Quote from: hickory creek on June 02, 2013, 10:44:32 PMHate that my first post is defending myself on a open forum. Yes this is Jeff Brondige owner of Hickory Creek Outfitters. I've been guiding in Kansas for 15 years and from what I see I may have 3 poor reviews. This being one and hunter22's account being #2. But hunter22 left out the fact that 3 seasons ago he called me at the end of the season trying to find a good hunt in Kansas after his "other" Kansas outfitter provided a bad hunt earlier in the season. So I made room for him the last 3 days of May. He came in the afternoon the day before his hunt was to start. I tool him to jump in the truck and we will get him in the woods! By 6:30pm he had his first bird and less then 12 hours later he had his second Tom. And when he got back to the truck we heard a bird gobbling across the road and I asked if he would loan me his gun and try to call him up for me. Second to last day of the season and no other hunters coming in. The bird came in on a string but I missed a 30yd shot. Had fun though...I guess them birds weren't overhunted or in freezer bags!Just some stats for this season.1. 52 hunters over 8 weeks (archery,youth,gun)2. 37 kills 2 wounded birds(unrecovered) 8 archery misses3. 30,000 acres spread out over 3 counties.4. Two lodges I'm not here to get into a pissing match with anyone specially (bpfarm)But seems to me that you and your group would have been farther ahead if you would have called me when things weren't going the way you thought that it should go. Yes, we have poor cell service in this area but I'm pretty sure you could have got ahold of me. I always try to make things right with my hunters but I cant do that if I'm not told till after the hunt. We killed 27 birds before you came and we killed 10 more after you left. Same birds, same properties, different day, different hunters !!!! As far as overhunting concerned we had land that was never even hunted. I think more often then not it's the hunters overhunting the land not the outfitter, 90 % of the birds killed this season were killed with patience, not running all over trying to get birds to gobble. We had a late spring and the toms were henned up for most the season and with all the storms i'm sure there was some renesting too. Toms just weren't gobbling like they normally do. But that doesn't mean they weren't there. Just had to hunt them differently. Don't know a outfitter out there that doesn't get payed before the hunt. And as far as my prices are concerned anyone who has done any homework on outfitted hunts knows $750 for the Opportunity to take 2 birds/food/lodging is very reasonable. I do the grocery shopping for both camps and CANNED food was NOT on the menu...Baked chicken, smothered pork chops and spaghetti same thing every 3 days for two months so I don't know and wasn't told of anything different a far as your camp is concerned. The other 4 hunters in camp with you rebooked for next season so they must have seen the potential !!! I'm done defending my operation, you guys can sit behind your keyboards and scream overhunting, no birds and anything else you can dream up. But real hunters know it's hunting not killing and when you know that, you will enjoy the experience that much more.