Permission/Lease Advice

[Gobblehead30]

I appreciate your honesty!   I have had my own leases and been on others.  I am usually the one who puts in the MOST time and effort as far as work.  So please don't judge me as a taker over the internet bud.  There are not many turkey hunters in the lease actually we ran into to not one hunter last year..   I am more than willing to pay/work/run poachers off to contribute to the well being of the property. 

I own a small piece of property but you only hunt the neighbors turkeys there.  I have also had leases that I helped organize that were not fruitful. I also don't deer hunt so its not economical at all for me to pay full price for a year lease when thats what most clubs want.  I also didn't have a father/brother who was a land broker and avid outdoorsman actually my pops has never hunted turkeys a day in his life. SO I do what I can.   I don't think trying to secure a turkey lease nearby for my son and my hunting future is what I call bad ethics..

You can try to justify it anyway you want but these are all just excuses for an inappropriate act.

It doesn't matter how many people turkey hunt there. It doesnt matter that your efforts have been largely unproductive.  It doesnt matter that your buddy was more fortunate than you with his family's background. It doesn't matter it's for you and your son (not one but TWO more people putting pressure on birds and/or killing them). You have an entitlement mindset and that's alarming.

Go hunt some public ground, pull plat maps and begin knocking on doors, talk to your buddies' dad about securing another turkey lease for you and your son.  There are many alternatives that require effort instead of this slimeball, back-door method of securing access.

My buddies dad was the one who told me he was fine with asking to get on?   

[Gobblehead30]

I appreciate your honesty!   I have had my own leases and been on others.  I am usually the one who puts in the MOST time and effort as far as work.  So please don't judge me as a taker over the internet bud.  There are not many turkey hunters in the lease actually we ran into to not one hunter last year..   I am more than willing to pay/work/run poachers off to contribute to the well being of the property. 

I own a small piece of property but you only hunt the neighbors turkeys there.  I have also had leases that I helped organize that were not fruitful. I also don't deer hunt so its not economical at all for me to pay full price for a year lease when thats what most clubs want.  I also didn't have a father/brother who was a land broker and avid outdoorsman actually my pops has never hunted turkeys a day in his life. SO I do what I can.   I don't think trying to secure a turkey lease nearby for my son and my hunting future is what I call bad ethics..

You can try to justify it anyway you want but these are all just excuses for an inappropriate act.

It doesn't matter how many people turkey hunt there. It doesnt matter that your efforts have been largely unproductive.  It doesnt matter that your buddy was more fortunate than you with his family's background. It doesn't matter it's for you and your son (not one but TWO more people putting pressure on birds and/or killing them). You have an entitlement mindset and that's alarming.

Go hunt some public ground, pull plat maps and begin knocking on doors, talk to your buddies' dad about securing another turkey lease for you and your son.  There are many alternatives that require effort instead of this slimeball, back-door method of securing access.

What entitlement do I have to hunt someones ground by just knocking on their door?   I have always tried to lease with a group that shares an equal working/paying and management objective.. 

[Timber Chicken]

Just a friendly word of advice. Get out of the mindset of only paying for turkey rights. There are deer hunters who don't turkey hunt but they pay all year. I would find a lease that had a bunch of deer hunters that didn't turkey hunt and pay the full price.

[Gobblehead30]

Just a friendly word of advice. Get out of the mindset of only paying for turkey rights. There are deer hunters who don't turkey hunt but they pay all year. I would find a lease that had a bunch of deer hunters that didn't turkey hunt and pay the full price.

Yes I realize that. Its probably what I will end up doing when I can justify it financially and I find the right club..